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keep IIS in RAMThere is a registry key that you can set to prevent the Windows kernel from
being paged. Why do you think IIS is not "running in RAM"? And which parts of IIS are you talking about? Cheers Ken Show quoteHide quote "titanic panic" <"jcy1971"@\"g\"mail> wrote in message news:emQr9vBPGHA.812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... : Is there a way to keep IIS running solely in RAM? : : panic At the moment, our site can basically probably occupy a gig of physical
memory (on a 2GB RAM server), so I was hoping on making sure performance would be top notch by keeping IIS and all the objects and processes solely in RAM. The last time I had to deal with a web server it was with solaris and apache and it was possible to do that there. panic Ken Schaefer wrote: Show quoteHide quote > There is a registry key that you can set to prevent the Windows kernel from > being paged. > > Why do you think IIS is not "running in RAM"? And which parts of IIS are you > talking about? > > Cheers > Ken > > "titanic panic" <"jcy1971"@\"g\"mail> wrote in message > news:emQr9vBPGHA.812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > : Is there a way to keep IIS running solely in RAM? > : > : panic > > How about turning off the PageFile and make sure you have enough RAM for
your website. Then, everything has to run in RAM. -- Show quoteHide quote//David IIS http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. // "titanic panic" <"jcy1971"@\"g\"mail> wrote in message news:uj$mL$BPGHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > At the moment, our site can basically probably occupy a gig of physical > memory (on a 2GB RAM server), so I was hoping on making sure performance > would be top notch by keeping IIS and all the objects and processes solely > in RAM. > > The last time I had to deal with a web server it was with solaris and > apache and it was possible to do that there. > > panic > > > > Ken Schaefer wrote: >> There is a registry key that you can set to prevent the Windows kernel >> from being paged. >> >> Why do you think IIS is not "running in RAM"? And which parts of IIS are >> you talking about? >> >> Cheers >> Ken >> >> "titanic panic" <"jcy1971"@\"g\"mail> wrote in message >> news:emQr9vBPGHA.812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> : Is there a way to keep IIS running solely in RAM? >> : >> : panic David Wang [Msft] wrote:
> How about turning off the PageFile and make sure you have enough RAM for Have you EVER tried that? I have tried to disable the paging file on both > your website. Then, everything has to run in RAM. Windows 2000 Pro and XP Pro. Both systems had 1 GB of RAM, and both showed about 150 MB of memory usage when freshly booted up. Neither system would boot up with the paging file disabled. They both complained about a lack of memory! And I could not even make it to the desktop. Of course, maybe 2000 Server or 2003 Server handles memory more intelligently....
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"Phil Frisbie, Jr." <p***@hawksoft.com> wrote in message Neither Windows 2000 Pro or Windows XP by itself requires more than 1GB of news:ObeMv8IPGHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... : David Wang [Msft] wrote: : : > How about turning off the PageFile and make sure you have enough RAM for : > your website. Then, everything has to run in RAM. : : Have you EVER tried that? I have tried to disable the paging file on both : Windows 2000 Pro and XP Pro. Both systems had 1 GB of RAM, and both showed about : 150 MB of memory usage when freshly booted up. : : Neither system would boot up with the paging file disabled. They both complained : about a lack of memory! And I could not even make it to the desktop. RAM just to boot. You must have other applications configured to run during startup or logon that are reserving or committing memory. : Of course, maybe 2000 Server or 2003 Server handles memory more Um, has nothing to do with handling memory more intelligently. If you run a intelligently.... program that reserves 500MB of RAM, and that isn't available, the program either needs to handle that, or it crashes and gets terminated by Windows. Cheers Ken Ken Schaefer wrote:
Show quoteHide quote > "Phil Frisbie, Jr." <p***@hawksoft.com> wrote in message Ok, but you did not answer my question: Have you ever tried to disable the pagefile?> news:ObeMv8IPGHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > : David Wang [Msft] wrote: > : > : > How about turning off the PageFile and make sure you have enough RAM for > : > your website. Then, everything has to run in RAM. > : > : Have you EVER tried that? I have tried to disable the paging file on both > : Windows 2000 Pro and XP Pro. Both systems had 1 GB of RAM, and both showed > about > : 150 MB of memory usage when freshly booted up. > : > : Neither system would boot up with the paging file disabled. They both > complained > : about a lack of memory! And I could not even make it to the desktop. > > Neither Windows 2000 Pro or Windows XP by itself requires more than 1GB of > RAM just to boot. You must have other applications configured to run during > startup or logon that are reserving or committing memory. It was just 6 weeks ago that I accidentally disabled the page file on a W2K Pro system while upgrading to a larger hard drive. Like I said, when that machine booted the total commit charge was about 150 MB. This was a fairly new install, and did not have anything I would call unusual running at start up. This computer has 1 GB of RAM, and the error message box that repeatedly came up warned that virtual memory was low, and that I needed to close some applications to continue. Just 'for fun', I sat there for about 10 minutes with my finger on the return key, constantly clearing out that message box, and I never could get to the desktop. > : Of course, maybe 2000 Server or 2003 Server handles memory more Don't get me started on Windows memory management...> intelligently.... > > Um, has nothing to do with handling memory more intelligently. If you run a > program that reserves 500MB of RAM, and that isn't available, the program > either needs to handle that, or it crashes and gets terminated by Windows.
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"Phil Frisbie, Jr." <p***@hawksoft.com> wrote in message Yes, I have as an experiment. Yes, I've been able to boot a generic Windows news:uKIddUVPGHA.812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... : Ken Schaefer wrote: : : > "Phil Frisbie, Jr." <p***@hawksoft.com> wrote in message : > news:ObeMv8IPGHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... : > : David Wang [Msft] wrote: : > : : > : > How about turning off the PageFile and make sure you have enough RAM for : > : > your website. Then, everything has to run in RAM. : > : : > : Have you EVER tried that? I have tried to disable the paging file on both : > : Windows 2000 Pro and XP Pro. Both systems had 1 GB of RAM, and both showed : > about : > : 150 MB of memory usage when freshly booted up. : > : : > : Neither system would boot up with the paging file disabled. They both : > complained : > : about a lack of memory! And I could not even make it to the desktop. : > : > Neither Windows 2000 Pro or Windows XP by itself requires more than 1GB of : > RAM just to boot. You must have other applications configured to run during : > startup or logon that are reserving or committing memory. : : Ok, but you did not answer my question: Have you ever tried to disable the pagefile? XP Pro box (with nothing else installed) with 1GB of installed RAM. I've had this discussion with many people (the merits of running without a pagefile). Personally I do not think that you should disable it, but you certainly can. Consider also that the minimum specs for running Windows XP are 128MB of RAM, and that by default Windows XP creates a pagefile 1.5 times the installed RAM size, with max pagefile 3 times the installed RAM. That would give the machine a total of 640MB of RAM (physical *and* virtual). So the machine must be bootable with just 640MB of memory. Show quoteHide quote : : It was just 6 weeks ago that I accidentally disabled the page file on a Then you have something else running that is reserving RAM (presumably it's W2K Pro : system while upgrading to a larger hard drive. Like I said, when that machine : booted the total commit charge was about 150 MB. This was a fairly new install, : and did not have anything I would call unusual running at start up. This : computer has 1 GB of RAM, and the error message box that repeatedly came up : warned that virtual memory was low, and that I needed to close some applications : to continue. Just 'for fun', I sat there for about 10 minutes with my finger on : the return key, constantly clearing out that message box, and I never could get : to the desktop. not committed as the commit charge is quite low) : Memory is memory, regardless of whether it is physical or virtual. If a : > : Of course, maybe 2000 Server or 2003 Server handles memory more : > intelligently.... : > : > Um, has nothing to do with handling memory more intelligently. If you run a : > program that reserves 500MB of RAM, and that isn't available, the program : > either needs to handle that, or it crashes and gets terminated by Windows. : : Don't get me started on Windows memory management... program asks for 500MB of memory (whether reserving or committing), then that has *nothing* to do with Windows memory management. Either the RAM exists (either physical or virtual) or it doesn't exist. There is nothing that Windows memory management can do about this. Cheers Ken FWIW I have Windows XP SP2 running inside a VPC right now with 640MB of
physical RAM, and no page file configured. Current commit charge is ~100MB Cheers Ken Show quoteHide quote "Ken Schaefer" <kenREM***@THISadOpenStatic.com> wrote in message news:eC%23GNCZPGHA.3888@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... : : "Phil Frisbie, Jr." <p***@hawksoft.com> wrote in message : news:uKIddUVPGHA.812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... :: Ken Schaefer wrote: :: :: > "Phil Frisbie, Jr." <p***@hawksoft.com> wrote in message :: > news:ObeMv8IPGHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... :: > : David Wang [Msft] wrote: :: > : :: > : > How about turning off the PageFile and make sure you have enough RAM : for :: > : > your website. Then, everything has to run in RAM. :: > : :: > : Have you EVER tried that? I have tried to disable the paging file on : both :: > : Windows 2000 Pro and XP Pro. Both systems had 1 GB of RAM, and both : showed :: > about :: > : 150 MB of memory usage when freshly booted up. :: > : :: > : Neither system would boot up with the paging file disabled. They both :: > complained :: > : about a lack of memory! And I could not even make it to the desktop. :: > :: > Neither Windows 2000 Pro or Windows XP by itself requires more than 1GB : of :: > RAM just to boot. You must have other applications configured to run : during :: > startup or logon that are reserving or committing memory. :: :: Ok, but you did not answer my question: Have you ever tried to disable the : pagefile? : : Yes, I have as an experiment. Yes, I've been able to boot a generic Windows : XP Pro box (with nothing else installed) with 1GB of installed RAM. I've had : this discussion with many people (the merits of running without a pagefile). : Personally I do not think that you should disable it, but you certainly can. : : Consider also that the minimum specs for running Windows XP are 128MB of : RAM, and that by default Windows XP creates a pagefile 1.5 times the : installed RAM size, with max pagefile 3 times the installed RAM. That would : give the machine a total of 640MB of RAM (physical *and* virtual). So the : machine must be bootable with just 640MB of memory. : :: : It was just 6 weeks ago that I accidentally disabled the page file on a : W2K Pro :: system while upgrading to a larger hard drive. Like I said, when that : machine :: booted the total commit charge was about 150 MB. This was a fairly new : install, :: and did not have anything I would call unusual running at start up. This :: computer has 1 GB of RAM, and the error message box that repeatedly came : up :: warned that virtual memory was low, and that I needed to close some : applications :: to continue. Just 'for fun', I sat there for about 10 minutes with my : finger on :: the return key, constantly clearing out that message box, and I never : could get :: to the desktop. : : Then you have something else running that is reserving RAM (presumably it's : not committed as the commit charge is quite low) : :: :: > : Of course, maybe 2000 Server or 2003 Server handles memory more :: > intelligently.... :: > :: > Um, has nothing to do with handling memory more intelligently. If you : run a :: > program that reserves 500MB of RAM, and that isn't available, the : program :: > either needs to handle that, or it crashes and gets terminated by : Windows. :: :: Don't get me started on Windows memory management... : : Memory is memory, regardless of whether it is physical or virtual. If a : program asks for 500MB of memory (whether reserving or committing), then : that has *nothing* to do with Windows memory management. Either the RAM : exists (either physical or virtual) or it doesn't exist. There is nothing : that Windows memory management can do about this. : : Cheers : Ken : : 
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