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Copy website to same serverI want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, on two
different websites. The only difference is that I want to run one with Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus SSL. The first website already exists. The server is W2K3. I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web from the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to create the second site, just to change the identity, not to change settings yet. I don't have a spare machine to experiment on at the moment. What are the things I must change in the configuration file before creating the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File do that already? Thanks very much. Hi,
Why would you do two sites in this case? You can have one site with both settings enabled... It will go from more secure authentication option (Integrated) to less secure auth. option (Basic) if the client can't do Integrated. Personally -- from what you wrote -- I don't see any good reason for having two sites. -- Show quoteHide quoteMike Microsoft MVP - Windows Security "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:%23z3I9by0GHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, on two >different websites. The only difference is that I want to run one with >Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus SSL. The first >website already exists. The server is W2K3. > I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web from > the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to create the > second site, just to change the identity, not to change settings yet. I > don't have a spare machine to experiment on at the moment. > What are the things I must change in the configuration file before > creating the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File do > that already? > Thanks very much. > Its a commercial application. One site is the default installation, and for
internal access. The other with Basic/SSL and possibly Digest is for external access. This way I can experiment with the authentication without changing the default installation of the application and voiding support. Anthony Show quoteHide quote "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-n***@atlantis.si> wrote in message news:%23ewR8N00GHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > Why would you do two sites in this case? You can have one site with both > settings enabled... It will go from more secure authentication option > (Integrated) to less secure auth. option (Basic) if the client can't do > Integrated. Personally -- from what you wrote -- I don't see any good > reason for having two sites. > > -- > Mike > Microsoft MVP - Windows Security > > "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message > news:%23z3I9by0GHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>I want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, on two >>different websites. The only difference is that I want to run one with >>Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus SSL. The first >>website already exists. The server is W2K3. >> I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web from >> the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to create the >> second site, just to change the identity, not to change settings yet. I >> don't have a spare machine to experiment on at the moment. >> What are the things I must change in the configuration file before >> creating the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File do >> that already? >> Thanks very much. >> > > Then perhaps you might want to define a new site but point it to
the same content, and then just alter the authentication properties of the second site ?? Show quoteHide quote "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:udfD3m30GHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Its a commercial application. One site is the default installation, and > for internal access. The other with Basic/SSL and possibly Digest is for > external access. This way I can experiment with the authentication without > changing the default installation of the application and voiding support. > Anthony > > > "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-n***@atlantis.si> wrote in message > news:%23ewR8N00GHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Hi, >> >> Why would you do two sites in this case? You can have one site with both >> settings enabled... It will go from more secure authentication option >> (Integrated) to less secure auth. option (Basic) if the client can't do >> Integrated. Personally -- from what you wrote -- I don't see any good >> reason for having two sites. >> >> -- >> Mike >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security >> >> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >> news:%23z3I9by0GHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>I want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, on >>>two different websites. The only difference is that I want to run one >>>with Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus SSL. The >>>first website already exists. The server is W2K3. >>> I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web >>> from the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to create >>> the second site, just to change the identity, not to change settings >>> yet. I don't have a spare machine to experiment on at the moment. >>> What are the things I must change in the configuration file before >>> creating the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File do >>> that already? >>> Thanks very much. >>> >> >> > > That's exactly my question. I need to copy all the attributes of the site.
Its a large comlex site. I can use the Copy configuration to file, and I can create website from the file, but I am asking what if anything I need to edit in the file before I create a new website from it on the same server. Some of the parts of the xml look as though they are supposed to be unique. Thanks, Anthony Show quoteHide quote "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message news:%23WHanY90GHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Then perhaps you might want to define a new site but point it to > the same content, and then just alter the authentication properties > of the second site ?? > > "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message > news:udfD3m30GHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Its a commercial application. One site is the default installation, and >> for internal access. The other with Basic/SSL and possibly Digest is for >> external access. This way I can experiment with the authentication >> without changing the default installation of the application and voiding >> support. >> Anthony >> >> >> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-n***@atlantis.si> wrote in message >> news:%23ewR8N00GHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Hi, >>> >>> Why would you do two sites in this case? You can have one site with both >>> settings enabled... It will go from more secure authentication option >>> (Integrated) to less secure auth. option (Basic) if the client can't do >>> Integrated. Personally -- from what you wrote -- I don't see any good >>> reason for having two sites. >>> >>> -- >>> Mike >>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security >>> >>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23z3I9by0GHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>I want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, on >>>>two different websites. The only difference is that I want to run one >>>>with Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus SSL. The >>>>first website already exists. The server is W2K3. >>>> I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web >>>> from the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to create >>>> the second site, just to change the identity, not to change settings >>>> yet. I don't have a spare machine to experiment on at the moment. >>>> What are the things I must change in the configuration file before >>>> creating the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File do >>>> that already? >>>> Thanks very much. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > You don't have to edit anything before. If there will be conflicts (e.g. TCP
port or IP address conflict), new site will not start and you will be able to change configuration then. -- Show quoteHide quoteMike Microsoft MVP - Windows Security "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:%23wSDuF%230GHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > That's exactly my question. I need to copy all the attributes of the site. > Its a large comlex site. I can use the Copy configuration to file, and I > can create website from the file, but I am asking what if anything I need > to edit in the file before I create a new website from it on the same > server. Some of the parts of the xml look as though they are supposed to > be unique. > Thanks, > Anthony > > > "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message > news:%23WHanY90GHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Then perhaps you might want to define a new site but point it to >> the same content, and then just alter the authentication properties >> of the second site ?? >> >> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >> news:udfD3m30GHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>> Its a commercial application. One site is the default installation, and >>> for internal access. The other with Basic/SSL and possibly Digest is for >>> external access. This way I can experiment with the authentication >>> without changing the default installation of the application and voiding >>> support. >>> Anthony >>> >>> >>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-n***@atlantis.si> wrote in message >>> news:%23ewR8N00GHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Why would you do two sites in this case? You can have one site with >>>> both settings enabled... It will go from more secure authentication >>>> option (Integrated) to less secure auth. option (Basic) if the client >>>> can't do Integrated. Personally -- from what you wrote -- I don't see >>>> any good reason for having two sites. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mike >>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security >>>> >>>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23z3I9by0GHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>I want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, on >>>>>two different websites. The only difference is that I want to run one >>>>>with Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus SSL. >>>>>The first website already exists. The server is W2K3. >>>>> I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web >>>>> from the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to create >>>>> the second site, just to change the identity, not to change settings >>>>> yet. I don't have a spare machine to experiment on at the moment. >>>>> What are the things I must change in the configuration file before >>>>> creating the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File do >>>>> that already? >>>>> Thanks very much. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Ok, thanks, I will give it a go.
Anthony Show quoteHide quote "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-n***@atlantis.si> wrote in message news:ePV0RHE1GHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > You don't have to edit anything before. If there will be conflicts (e.g. > TCP port or IP address conflict), new site will not start and you will be > able to change configuration then. > > -- > Mike > Microsoft MVP - Windows Security > > "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message > news:%23wSDuF%230GHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> That's exactly my question. I need to copy all the attributes of the >> site. Its a large comlex site. I can use the Copy configuration to file, >> and I can create website from the file, but I am asking what if anything >> I need to edit in the file before I create a new website from it on the >> same server. Some of the parts of the xml look as though they are >> supposed to be unique. >> Thanks, >> Anthony >> >> >> "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message >> news:%23WHanY90GHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> Then perhaps you might want to define a new site but point it to >>> the same content, and then just alter the authentication properties >>> of the second site ?? >>> >>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>> news:udfD3m30GHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>> Its a commercial application. One site is the default installation, and >>>> for internal access. The other with Basic/SSL and possibly Digest is >>>> for external access. This way I can experiment with the authentication >>>> without changing the default installation of the application and >>>> voiding support. >>>> Anthony >>>> >>>> >>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-n***@atlantis.si> wrote in message >>>> news:%23ewR8N00GHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Why would you do two sites in this case? You can have one site with >>>>> both settings enabled... It will go from more secure authentication >>>>> option (Integrated) to less secure auth. option (Basic) if the client >>>>> can't do Integrated. Personally -- from what you wrote -- I don't see >>>>> any good reason for having two sites. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mike >>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security >>>>> >>>>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23z3I9by0GHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>I want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, on >>>>>>two different websites. The only difference is that I want to run one >>>>>>with Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus SSL. >>>>>>The first website already exists. The server is W2K3. >>>>>> I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web >>>>>> from the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to create >>>>>> the second site, just to change the identity, not to change settings >>>>>> yet. I don't have a spare machine to experiment on at the moment. >>>>>> What are the things I must change in the configuration file before >>>>>> creating the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File >>>>>> do that already? >>>>>> Thanks very much. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > All done and it works fine. I removed obviously unique stuff from the xml,
like the SSL access. I replaced the website number, path etc with other values. Then I created the website with the XML file and modified the permissions on the new site. The problem I needed to solve was that I want to Require SSL if Basic is used, but not if WIA is used, because of the overhead. So I need one site for WIA and a separate site for Basic+SSL. Anthony Show quoteHide quote "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message news:efh6TBG1GHA.4264@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Ok, thanks, I will give it a go. > Anthony > > "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-n***@atlantis.si> wrote in message > news:ePV0RHE1GHA.4796@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> You don't have to edit anything before. If there will be conflicts (e.g. >> TCP port or IP address conflict), new site will not start and you will be >> able to change configuration then. >> >> -- >> Mike >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security >> >> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >> news:%23wSDuF%230GHA.3476@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> That's exactly my question. I need to copy all the attributes of the >>> site. Its a large comlex site. I can use the Copy configuration to file, >>> and I can create website from the file, but I am asking what if anything >>> I need to edit in the file before I create a new website from it on the >>> same server. Some of the parts of the xml look as though they are >>> supposed to be unique. >>> Thanks, >>> Anthony >>> >>> >>> "Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message >>> news:%23WHanY90GHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Then perhaps you might want to define a new site but point it to >>>> the same content, and then just alter the authentication properties >>>> of the second site ?? >>>> >>>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>>> news:udfD3m30GHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>> Its a commercial application. One site is the default installation, >>>>> and for internal access. The other with Basic/SSL and possibly Digest >>>>> is for external access. This way I can experiment with the >>>>> authentication without changing the default installation of the >>>>> application and voiding support. >>>>> Anthony >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Miha Pihler [MVP]" <mihap-n***@atlantis.si> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23ewR8N00GHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Why would you do two sites in this case? You can have one site with >>>>>> both settings enabled... It will go from more secure authentication >>>>>> option (Integrated) to less secure auth. option (Basic) if the client >>>>>> can't do Integrated. Personally -- from what you wrote -- I don't see >>>>>> any good reason for having two sites. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Security >>>>>> >>>>>> "Anthony" <anthony.spam@spammedout.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23z3I9by0GHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>I want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, >>>>>>>on two different websites. The only difference is that I want to run >>>>>>>one with Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus >>>>>>>SSL. The first website already exists. The server is W2K3. >>>>>>> I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web >>>>>>> from the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to >>>>>>> create the second site, just to change the identity, not to change >>>>>>> settings yet. I don't have a spare machine to experiment on at the >>>>>>> moment. >>>>>>> What are the things I must change in the configuration file before >>>>>>> creating the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File >>>>>>> do that already? >>>>>>> Thanks very much. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Hi Anthony,
A nice third-party solution is RDS or R-1 from RepliWeb (www.repliweb.com). R-1 or RDS can automate the process/outcome you described below. Brad b.helic***@repliweb.com Anthony wrote: Show quoteHide quote > I want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, on two > different websites. The only difference is that I want to run one with > Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus SSL. The first > website already exists. The server is W2K3. > I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web from > the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to create the second > site, just to change the identity, not to change settings yet. I don't have > a spare machine to experiment on at the moment. > What are the things I must change in the configuration file before creating > the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File do that already? > Thanks very much. Its interesting, because you obviously have a product for web replication,
but I don't see how it helps to recreate a web with different directory secuity settings, Anthony Show quoteHide quote "Brad Helicher" <b.helic***@att.net> wrote in message news:1158175286.010059.49220@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Hi Anthony, > > A nice third-party solution is RDS or R-1 from RepliWeb > (www.repliweb.com). R-1 or RDS can automate the process/outcome you > described below. > > Brad > b.helic***@repliweb.com > > > Anthony wrote: >> I want to run two versions of a web application on the same server, on >> two >> different websites. The only difference is that I want to run one with >> Windows Integrated authentication, and one with Basic plus SSL. The first >> website already exists. The server is W2K3. >> I can export the configuration to a file, and I can create a new web from >> the file, but I am unclear what I would need to change to create the >> second >> site, just to change the identity, not to change settings yet. I don't >> have >> a spare machine to experiment on at the moment. >> What are the things I must change in the configuration file before >> creating >> the second site, if anything? Or does the Create From File do that >> already? >> Thanks very much. >  
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