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Author
9 Oct 2006 11:01 AM
serge calderara
Dear all,

I ma studying security stuff to prepare my next exam and in this study I am
face to different example which connect to database within a
ServicedComponent..

My question is what is the adavantang of using this ServicedComponent
features if no interest on Object pooling, Application messaging, database
transaction....?

In other words any benefits of that compare to simple Windows Service ?

regards
serge

Author
9 Oct 2006 7:40 PM
Claus Konrad
If you have no interest in any of the mentioned advantages - I would say very
little.
The only thing I can think of is that you have the ability to control who
can make use of your components via the "Component Security". It is more or
less the same level of granilarity found in the Azman framework.

/Claus

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"serge calderara" wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I ma studying security stuff to prepare my next exam and in this study I am
> face to different example which connect to database within a
> ServicedComponent..
>
> My question is what is the adavantang of using this ServicedComponent
> features if no interest on Object pooling, Application messaging, database
> transaction....?
>
> In other words any benefits of that compare to simple Windows Service ?
>
> regards
> serge
Author
10 Oct 2006 1:37 PM
serge calderara
Could Windows service can do the same as well ?

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"Claus Konrad" wrote:

> If you have no interest in any of the mentioned advantages - I would say very
> little.
> The only thing I can think of is that you have the ability to control who
> can make use of your components via the "Component Security". It is more or
> less the same level of granilarity found in the Azman framework.
>
> /Claus
>
> "serge calderara" wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I ma studying security stuff to prepare my next exam and in this study I am
> > face to different example which connect to database within a
> > ServicedComponent..
> >
> > My question is what is the adavantang of using this ServicedComponent
> > features if no interest on Object pooling, Application messaging, database
> > transaction....?
> >
> > In other words any benefits of that compare to simple Windows Service ?
> >
> > regards
> > serge
Author
10 Oct 2006 1:03 PM
Dominick Baier
no - this is COM+ specific.

But you can implement the same functionality using AzMan (as metioned before)

Have a look at this:

http://www.leastprivilege.com/AnotherWayOfIntegratingAzMan.aspx

---
Dominick Baier, DevelopMentor
http://www.leastprivilege.com

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> Could Windows service can do the same as well ?
>
> "Claus Konrad" wrote:
>
>> If you have no interest in any of the mentioned advantages - I would
>> say very
>> little.
>> The only thing I can think of is that you have the ability to control
>> who
>> can make use of your components via the "Component Security". It is
>> more or
>> less the same level of granilarity found in the Azman framework.
>> /Claus
>>
>> "serge calderara" wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I ma studying security stuff to prepare my next exam and in this
>>> study I am face to different example which connect to database
>>> within a ServicedComponent..
>>>
>>> My question is what is the adavantang of using this
>>> ServicedComponent features if no interest on Object pooling,
>>> Application messaging, database transaction....?
>>>
>>> In other words any benefits of that compare to simple Windows
>>> Service ?
>>>
>>> regards
>>> serge
Author
10 Oct 2006 2:53 PM
serge calderara
What is this AzMan about ?
A hand made class on top of satandard .Net pincipal ??

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"Dominick Baier" wrote:

> no - this is COM+ specific.
>
> But you can implement the same functionality using AzMan (as metioned before)
>
> Have a look at this:
>
> http://www.leastprivilege.com/AnotherWayOfIntegratingAzMan.aspx
>
> ---
> Dominick Baier, DevelopMentor
> http://www.leastprivilege.com
>
> > Could Windows service can do the same as well ?
> >
> > "Claus Konrad" wrote:
> >
> >> If you have no interest in any of the mentioned advantages - I would
> >> say very
> >> little.
> >> The only thing I can think of is that you have the ability to control
> >> who
> >> can make use of your components via the "Component Security". It is
> >> more or
> >> less the same level of granilarity found in the Azman framework.
> >> /Claus
> >>
> >> "serge calderara" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> I ma studying security stuff to prepare my next exam and in this
> >>> study I am face to different example which connect to database
> >>> within a ServicedComponent..
> >>>
> >>> My question is what is the adavantang of using this
> >>> ServicedComponent features if no interest on Object pooling,
> >>> Application messaging, database transaction....?
> >>>
> >>> In other words any benefits of that compare to simple Windows
> >>> Service ?
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>> serge
>
>
>
Author
10 Oct 2006 2:01 PM
Dominick Baier
well "handmade" by Microsoft ;)

---
Dominick Baier, DevelopMentor
http://www.leastprivilege.com

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> What is this AzMan about ?
> A hand made class on top of satandard .Net pincipal ??
> "Dominick Baier" wrote:
>
>> no - this is COM+ specific.
>>
>> But you can implement the same functionality using AzMan (as metioned
>> before)
>>
>> Have a look at this:
>>
>> http://www.leastprivilege.com/AnotherWayOfIntegratingAzMan.aspx
>>
>> ---
>> Dominick Baier, DevelopMentor
>> http://www.leastprivilege.com
>>> Could Windows service can do the same as well ?
>>>
>>> "Claus Konrad" wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you have no interest in any of the mentioned advantages - I
>>>> would
>>>> say very
>>>> little.
>>>> The only thing I can think of is that you have the ability to
>>>> control
>>>> who
>>>> can make use of your components via the "Component Security". It is
>>>> more or
>>>> less the same level of granilarity found in the Azman framework.
>>>> /Claus
>>>> "serge calderara" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I ma studying security stuff to prepare my next exam and in this
>>>>> study I am face to different example which connect to database
>>>>> within a ServicedComponent..
>>>>>
>>>>> My question is what is the adavantang of using this
>>>>> ServicedComponent features if no interest on Object pooling,
>>>>> Application messaging, database transaction....?
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words any benefits of that compare to simple Windows
>>>>> Service ?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>> serge
Author
11 Oct 2006 6:41 AM
serge calderara
Ha oki...
What does it offer more than exisiting stuff ?

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"Dominick Baier" wrote:

> well "handmade" by Microsoft ;)
>
> ---
> Dominick Baier, DevelopMentor
> http://www.leastprivilege.com
>
> > What is this AzMan about ?
> > A hand made class on top of satandard .Net pincipal ??
> > "Dominick Baier" wrote:
> >
> >> no - this is COM+ specific.
> >>
> >> But you can implement the same functionality using AzMan (as metioned
> >> before)
> >>
> >> Have a look at this:
> >>
> >> http://www.leastprivilege.com/AnotherWayOfIntegratingAzMan.aspx
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Dominick Baier, DevelopMentor
> >> http://www.leastprivilege.com
> >>> Could Windows service can do the same as well ?
> >>>
> >>> "Claus Konrad" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If you have no interest in any of the mentioned advantages - I
> >>>> would
> >>>> say very
> >>>> little.
> >>>> The only thing I can think of is that you have the ability to
> >>>> control
> >>>> who
> >>>> can make use of your components via the "Component Security". It is
> >>>> more or
> >>>> less the same level of granilarity found in the Azman framework.
> >>>> /Claus
> >>>> "serge calderara" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I ma studying security stuff to prepare my next exam and in this
> >>>>> study I am face to different example which connect to database
> >>>>> within a ServicedComponent..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My question is what is the adavantang of using this
> >>>>> ServicedComponent features if no interest on Object pooling,
> >>>>> Application messaging, database transaction....?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other words any benefits of that compare to simple Windows
> >>>>> Service ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> regards
> >>>>> serge
>
>
>
Author
11 Oct 2006 9:04 AM
Dominick Baier
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnnetserv/html/AzManApps.asp

---
Dominick Baier, DevelopMentor
http://www.leastprivilege.com

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> Ha oki...
> What does it offer more than exisiting stuff ?
> "Dominick Baier" wrote:
>
>> well "handmade" by Microsoft ;)
>>
>> ---
>> Dominick Baier, DevelopMentor
>> http://www.leastprivilege.com
>>> What is this AzMan about ?
>>> A hand made class on top of satandard .Net pincipal ??
>>> "Dominick Baier" wrote:
>>>> no - this is COM+ specific.
>>>>
>>>> But you can implement the same functionality using AzMan (as
>>>> metioned before)
>>>>
>>>> Have a look at this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.leastprivilege.com/AnotherWayOfIntegratingAzMan.aspx
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Dominick Baier, DevelopMentor
>>>> http://www.leastprivilege.com
>>>>> Could Windows service can do the same as well ?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Claus Konrad" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have no interest in any of the mentioned advantages - I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> say very
>>>>>> little.
>>>>>> The only thing I can think of is that you have the ability to
>>>>>> control
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> can make use of your components via the "Component Security". It
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> more or
>>>>>> less the same level of granilarity found in the Azman framework.
>>>>>> /Claus
>>>>>> "serge calderara" wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ma studying security stuff to prepare my next exam and in this
>>>>>>> study I am face to different example which connect to database
>>>>>>> within a ServicedComponent..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My question is what is the adavantang of using this
>>>>>>> ServicedComponent features if no interest on Object pooling,
>>>>>>> Application messaging, database transaction....?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words any benefits of that compare to simple Windows
>>>>>>> Service ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>> serge