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stolen ownership, round 2, isnt this illegal?I'M DUMB. TOOK A YEAR TO REALIZE PC DAD GAVE ME IS ON HIS NETWORK AND UNDER
HIS CONTROL, SAME AS ALWAYS. IS THAT NOT ILLEGAL? I THOUGHT I REBOOTED AND DISABLED HARDWARE SUCCESSFULLY WEEKS AGO. THOUGHT I WAS FREE AND CLEAR, SUSPECTED OTHERWISE (YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE THE OWNER AND YOU COME ACCROSS FILES YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, SOMETHING'S WRONG). I WANT TO BE OFF ANY NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS IF THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN START NEW. ALONE! THX -- EEE Hi.
First, you've posted to the security newsgroup for Microsoft Access, the database product that's part of the Microsoft Office productivity suite, and is dedicated to security issues for this application, so your posts aren't likely to receive replies that will help you. Second, it sounds like you are a minor whom your parents are responsible for at all times, including when you use your computer. If this is the case, then they have a legal responsibility to monitor your activities, regardless of whether or not you think it an invasion of your privacy. Third, typing in all caps is considered shouting on the Internet, and when used for more than a sentence or a phrase or two, it's considered quite rude. > I WANT TO BE OFF ANY I seriously doubt you want to be off of _any_ network. You want to be off > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED > AGAINST MY WILL. of your father's network, not the Internet's network. If I'm wrong about this, then all you need to do is remove any NIC cards from your computer (both the wireless network cards and the network cards where an Ethernet cable plugs into your computer), and the modem, and no one will be able to see or use your files unless they have a physical presence at your computer. Show quoteHide quote > AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS > IF > THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN START > NEW. ALONE! "GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER" <GUESSIMNOTTHEOW***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3BCBDEF5-4372-4626-ACEF-40670A22F761@microsoft.com... > I'M DUMB. TOOK A YEAR TO REALIZE PC DAD GAVE ME IS ON HIS NETWORK AND > UNDER > HIS CONTROL, SAME AS ALWAYS. IS THAT NOT ILLEGAL? I THOUGHT I REBOOTED AND > DISABLED HARDWARE SUCCESSFULLY WEEKS AGO. THOUGHT I WAS FREE AND CLEAR, > SUSPECTED OTHERWISE (YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE THE OWNER AND YOU COME ACCROSS > FILES YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, SOMETHING'S WRONG). I WANT TO BE OFF ANY > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED > AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS > IF > THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN START > NEW. ALONE! THX > -- > EEE thanks captain obvious! yes im computer illiterate. almost 25 years is hardly
minor. im frustrated which blurs my attempt to explain whats happening to the best of my knowledge in the correct forum or newsgroup whatever. i take it theres no way he could have wireless access to my computer? at one point i disabled the network hardware or components and actually i doubt i could explain to you exactly what i did. if you dont have the right info you cant help. i am just waiting to talk to a tech or maybe have someone access me and do the diagnostics the right way so i can get disconnected. thanks anyway... -- Show quoteHide quoteEEE "'69 Camaro" wrote: > Hi. > > First, you've posted to the security newsgroup for Microsoft Access, the > database product that's part of the Microsoft Office productivity suite, and > is dedicated to security issues for this application, so your posts aren't > likely to receive replies that will help you. Second, it sounds like you > are a minor whom your parents are responsible for at all times, including > when you use your computer. If this is the case, then they have a legal > responsibility to monitor your activities, regardless of whether or not you > think it an invasion of your privacy. Third, typing in all caps is > considered shouting on the Internet, and when used for more than a sentence > or a phrase or two, it's considered quite rude. > > > I WANT TO BE OFF ANY > > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED > > AGAINST MY WILL. > > I seriously doubt you want to be off of _any_ network. You want to be off > of your father's network, not the Internet's network. If I'm wrong about > this, then all you need to do is remove any NIC cards from your computer > (both the wireless network cards and the network cards where an Ethernet > cable plugs into your computer), and the modem, and no one will be able to > see or use your files unless they have a physical presence at your computer. > > > AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS > > IF > > THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN START > > NEW. ALONE! > > "GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER" <GUESSIMNOTTHEOW***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:3BCBDEF5-4372-4626-ACEF-40670A22F761@microsoft.com... > > I'M DUMB. TOOK A YEAR TO REALIZE PC DAD GAVE ME IS ON HIS NETWORK AND > > UNDER > > HIS CONTROL, SAME AS ALWAYS. IS THAT NOT ILLEGAL? I THOUGHT I REBOOTED AND > > DISABLED HARDWARE SUCCESSFULLY WEEKS AGO. THOUGHT I WAS FREE AND CLEAR, > > SUSPECTED OTHERWISE (YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE THE OWNER AND YOU COME ACCROSS > > FILES YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, SOMETHING'S WRONG). I WANT TO BE OFF ANY > > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED > > AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS > > IF > > THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN START > > NEW. ALONE! THX > > -- > > EEE > > > Hi.
> i take it He could, but in order to do so, you have to have a wireless network card > theres no way he could have wireless access to my computer? connected to your computer or to the router that your computer is networked to, and he'd have to be within close proximity with a computer that can receive the signal, or have a "repeater" repeat the signal to a network that can receive it. So, that "close proximity" can be within 300 feet, or within many hundreds of miles in the case of a network of repeaters. > i am just waiting to talk to a tech or maybe have someone access me and "Waiting to talk to a tech"? Are you expecting that technician to reply to > do the diagnostics the right way so i can get disconnected. your newsgroup messages or did you call a tech on the phone and leave a message with your phone number so that he can call you back? If it's the former, then be advised that most of the people who will reply to your messages posted to the technical newsgroups _are_ techs, either as a vocation or as a hobby. However, we're all volunteers who offer technical advice to others who are trying to walk down the paths we've walked before and need a little help to get pointed in the right direction. If you need actual tech support to do what you can't do yourself, then you need to find a friend or relative to help you, or else you need to hire tech support. If you don't trust your Dad to do this, then ask your friends who they'd recommend or consult the Yellow Pages in your area for reputable computer technicians, and bring your computer to them. Don't let some stranger on the Internet have remote access to your computer, even if he offers to do it for free, because the chances are just too high that it will be a hacker who wants to use your computer for illegal activities. And are you sure that it's your Dad networked to your computer and not a hacker? Hackers put spyware on computers all the time, so that they can remotely control the computer and monitor activities, particularly User ID's and passwords at bank Web sites and usage of credit cards. Do you have anti-spyware installed on your computer to prevent and detect spyware? Do you have a hardware firewall on your router and a software firewall on your computer? These will stop hackers from accessing your computer if they're configured properly. Have a computer technician set up firewalls for you if you can't figure out how to do it correctly yourself. HTH. Gunny See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs. See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials. http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/expert_contributors2.html for contact info. Show quoteHide quote "GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER" <GUESSIMNOTTHEOW***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in <SNIP>message news:13C0D5E1-566A-4EBC-AC80-E55CCBEEBDC2@microsoft.com... > thanks captain obvious! yes im computer illiterate. almost 25 years is > hardly > minor. im frustrated which blurs my attempt to explain whats happening to > the > best of my knowledge in the correct forum or newsgroup whatever. i take it > theres no way he could have wireless access to my computer? at one point i > disabled the network hardware or components and actually i doubt i could > explain to you exactly what i did. if you dont have the right info you > cant > help. i am just waiting to talk to a tech or maybe have someone access me > and > do the diagnostics the right way so i can get disconnected. thanks > anyway... > -- > EEE > > > "'69 Camaro" wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> First, you've posted to the security newsgroup for Microsoft Access, the >> database product that's part of the Microsoft Office productivity suite, >> and >> is dedicated to security issues for this application, so your posts >> aren't >> likely to receive replies that will help you. Second, it sounds like you >> are a minor whom your parents are responsible for at all times, including >> when you use your computer. If this is the case, then they have a legal >> responsibility to monitor your activities, regardless of whether or not >> you >> think it an invasion of your privacy. Third, typing in all caps is >> considered shouting on the Internet, and when used for more than a >> sentence >> or a phrase or two, it's considered quite rude. >> >> > I WANT TO BE OFF ANY >> > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED >> > AGAINST MY WILL. >> >> I seriously doubt you want to be off of _any_ network. You want to be >> off >> of your father's network, not the Internet's network. If I'm wrong about >> this, then all you need to do is remove any NIC cards from your computer >> (both the wireless network cards and the network cards where an Ethernet >> cable plugs into your computer), and the modem, and no one will be able >> to >> see or use your files unless they have a physical presence at your >> computer. >> Show quoteHide quote >> Sorry. I accidentally hit the keyboard and sent that message before I >> was >> ready to. ;-) > >>> HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS IF THEY >>> WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN >>> >>> START NEW. ALONE! > >> This isn't the brilliant idea that it sounds like. Many hucksters would >> love to get remote access to a computer novice's computer so that they >> can >> set up remote file sharing. The novice would never suspect a thing, and >> when the police do a raid, the novice is left to explain how those child >> pornography pictures got on the hard drive. Even if it's just pirated >> videos or software applications being downloaded from your hard drive to >> other people across the Internet, you'll have to explain how those files >> got >> there, and in the meantime you'll have reduced Internet bandwidth, CPU >> cycles, and hard drive space, because the freeloaders' files will take it >> all from you. >> >> If your Dad was generous enough to give you a PC, then be thankful for >> the >> gift and the opportunity to learn valuable computer skills. If you have >> reached the age of majority and don't live under the same roof as your >> parents, then you have a legal right to privacy on your computer, and you >> should seek legal counsel if any family member is intentionally spying on >> you and causing malicious mischief on your computer. If this is the >> case, >> then you should also take your computer to a computer specialist who will >> wipe the hard drive and install an operating system for you, so that you >> can >> install the rest of your software applications yourself. >> >> But I suspect that you want someone to do this last part remotely so that >> your father doesn't know what's going on in his kid's bedroom. But trust >> me >> that he's going to find out very, very quickly, and you will have to face >> the consequences for trying to be sneaky. >> >> HTH. >> Gunny >> >> See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs. >> See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials. >> http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/expert_contributors2.html for contact >> info. >> "GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER" <GUESSIMNOTTHEOW***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >> in >> message news:3BCBDEF5-4372-4626-ACEF-40670A22F761@microsoft.com... >> > I'M DUMB. TOOK A YEAR TO REALIZE PC DAD GAVE ME IS ON HIS NETWORK AND >> > UNDER >> > HIS CONTROL, SAME AS ALWAYS. IS THAT NOT ILLEGAL? I THOUGHT I REBOOTED >> > AND >> > DISABLED HARDWARE SUCCESSFULLY WEEKS AGO. THOUGHT I WAS FREE AND CLEAR, >> > SUSPECTED OTHERWISE (YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE THE OWNER AND YOU COME >> > ACCROSS >> > FILES YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, SOMETHING'S WRONG). I WANT TO BE OFF >> > ANY >> > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED >> > AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE >> > ACCESS >> > IF >> > THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN >> > START >> > NEW. ALONE! THX >> > -- >> > EEE >> >> >> wow i dont know if you're more hateful or helpful. i said i was
computer-illiterate, not some half-wit moron. ofcourse i got tech support elsewhere, you should know microsoft support is more user friendly than ever, so even idiots like me have a chance... i couldnt read your response, it was too long and i didnt ask for all the opinionated judgemental assumptions you keep throwing at me. i do appreciate the fact you offered any valid response whatsoever. you're offended because i have all caps, but i dont know you from adam and you talk to me as if you can't stand me just because i asked for help in the wrong way, in the wrong place, etc. give it a rest, huh? try being civil or even friendly. if you cant do that please dont communicate with me. thanks -- Show quoteHide quoteEEE "'69 Camaro" wrote: > Hi. > > > i take it > > theres no way he could have wireless access to my computer? > > He could, but in order to do so, you have to have a wireless network card > connected to your computer or to the router that your computer is networked > to, and he'd have to be within close proximity with a computer that can > receive the signal, or have a "repeater" repeat the signal to a network that > can receive it. So, that "close proximity" can be within 300 feet, or > within many hundreds of miles in the case of a network of repeaters. > > > i am just waiting to talk to a tech or maybe have someone access me and > > do the diagnostics the right way so i can get disconnected. > > "Waiting to talk to a tech"? Are you expecting that technician to reply to > your newsgroup messages or did you call a tech on the phone and leave a > message with your phone number so that he can call you back? If it's the > former, then be advised that most of the people who will reply to your > messages posted to the technical newsgroups _are_ techs, either as a > vocation or as a hobby. However, we're all volunteers who offer technical > advice to others who are trying to walk down the paths we've walked before > and need a little help to get pointed in the right direction. If you need > actual tech support to do what you can't do yourself, then you need to find > a friend or relative to help you, or else you need to hire tech support. If > you don't trust your Dad to do this, then ask your friends who they'd > recommend or consult the Yellow Pages in your area for reputable computer > technicians, and bring your computer to them. Don't let some stranger on > the Internet have remote access to your computer, even if he offers to do it > for free, because the chances are just too high that it will be a hacker who > wants to use your computer for illegal activities. > > And are you sure that it's your Dad networked to your computer and not a > hacker? Hackers put spyware on computers all the time, so that they can > remotely control the computer and monitor activities, particularly User ID's > and passwords at bank Web sites and usage of credit cards. Do you have > anti-spyware installed on your computer to prevent and detect spyware? Do > you have a hardware firewall on your router and a software firewall on your > computer? These will stop hackers from accessing your computer if they're > configured properly. Have a computer technician set up firewalls for you if > you can't figure out how to do it correctly yourself. > > HTH. > Gunny > > See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs. > See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials. > http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/expert_contributors2.html for contact > info. > > > "GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER" <GUESSIMNOTTHEOW***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message news:13C0D5E1-566A-4EBC-AC80-E55CCBEEBDC2@microsoft.com... > > thanks captain obvious! yes im computer illiterate. almost 25 years is > > hardly > > minor. im frustrated which blurs my attempt to explain whats happening to > > the > > best of my knowledge in the correct forum or newsgroup whatever. i take it > > theres no way he could have wireless access to my computer? at one point i > > disabled the network hardware or components and actually i doubt i could > > explain to you exactly what i did. if you dont have the right info you > > cant > > help. i am just waiting to talk to a tech or maybe have someone access me > > and > > do the diagnostics the right way so i can get disconnected. thanks > > anyway... > > -- > > EEE > > > > > > "'69 Camaro" wrote: > > > >> Hi. > >> > >> First, you've posted to the security newsgroup for Microsoft Access, the > >> database product that's part of the Microsoft Office productivity suite, > >> and > >> is dedicated to security issues for this application, so your posts > >> aren't > >> likely to receive replies that will help you. Second, it sounds like you > >> are a minor whom your parents are responsible for at all times, including > >> when you use your computer. If this is the case, then they have a legal > >> responsibility to monitor your activities, regardless of whether or not > >> you > >> think it an invasion of your privacy. Third, typing in all caps is > >> considered shouting on the Internet, and when used for more than a > >> sentence > >> or a phrase or two, it's considered quite rude. > >> > >> > I WANT TO BE OFF ANY > >> > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED > >> > AGAINST MY WILL. > >> > >> I seriously doubt you want to be off of _any_ network. You want to be > >> off > >> of your father's network, not the Internet's network. If I'm wrong about > >> this, then all you need to do is remove any NIC cards from your computer > >> (both the wireless network cards and the network cards where an Ethernet > >> cable plugs into your computer), and the modem, and no one will be able > >> to > >> see or use your files unless they have a physical presence at your > >> computer. > >> > > <SNIP> > > >> Sorry. I accidentally hit the keyboard and sent that message before I > >> was > >> ready to. ;-) > > > >>> HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS IF THEY > >>> WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN >>> > >>> START NEW. ALONE! > > > >> This isn't the brilliant idea that it sounds like. Many hucksters would > >> love to get remote access to a computer novice's computer so that they > >> can > >> set up remote file sharing. The novice would never suspect a thing, and > >> when the police do a raid, the novice is left to explain how those child > >> pornography pictures got on the hard drive. Even if it's just pirated > >> videos or software applications being downloaded from your hard drive to > >> other people across the Internet, you'll have to explain how those files > >> got > >> there, and in the meantime you'll have reduced Internet bandwidth, CPU > >> cycles, and hard drive space, because the freeloaders' files will take it > >> all from you. > >> > >> If your Dad was generous enough to give you a PC, then be thankful for > >> the > >> gift and the opportunity to learn valuable computer skills. If you have > >> reached the age of majority and don't live under the same roof as your > >> parents, then you have a legal right to privacy on your computer, and you > >> should seek legal counsel if any family member is intentionally spying on > >> you and causing malicious mischief on your computer. If this is the > >> case, > >> then you should also take your computer to a computer specialist who will > >> wipe the hard drive and install an operating system for you, so that you > >> can > >> install the rest of your software applications yourself. > >> > >> But I suspect that you want someone to do this last part remotely so that > >> your father doesn't know what's going on in his kid's bedroom. But trust > >> me > >> that he's going to find out very, very quickly, and you will have to face > >> the consequences for trying to be sneaky. > >> > >> HTH. > >> Gunny > >> > >> See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs. > >> See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials. > >> http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/expert_contributors2.html for contact > >> info. > > > >> "GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER" <GUESSIMNOTTHEOW***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote > >> in > >> message news:3BCBDEF5-4372-4626-ACEF-40670A22F761@microsoft.com... > >> > I'M DUMB. TOOK A YEAR TO REALIZE PC DAD GAVE ME IS ON HIS NETWORK AND > >> > UNDER > >> > HIS CONTROL, SAME AS ALWAYS. IS THAT NOT ILLEGAL? I THOUGHT I REBOOTED > >> > AND > >> > DISABLED HARDWARE SUCCESSFULLY WEEKS AGO. THOUGHT I WAS FREE AND CLEAR, > >> > SUSPECTED OTHERWISE (YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE THE OWNER AND YOU COME > >> > ACCROSS > >> > FILES YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, SOMETHING'S WRONG). I WANT TO BE OFF > >> > ANY > >> > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND OWNED > >> > AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE > >> > ACCESS > >> > IF > >> > THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN > >> > START > >> > NEW. ALONE! THX > >> > -- > >> > EEE > >> > >> > >> > > > Hi.
> wow i dont know if you're more hateful or helpful. I wouldn't bother replying if it were a hateful response. Your wording and writing skills in your first two posts and the user profile you wrote produced a very strong impression of an indignant teenager who wants help to get out from under Dad's thumb. > i said i was Why did you offer to give a complete stranger remote access to your computer > computer-illiterate, not some half-wit moron. ofcourse i got tech support > elsewhere to wipe the operating system to fix this problem for you, if you had received tech support elsewhere? If this stranger wipes your operating system and installs a new one, whatever steps your tech support did to fix the problem will be annihilated, so your money will have been wasted. > you should know microsoft support is more user friendly than ever, At $245 per incident for phone tech support after the first one, they're > so even idiots like me have a chance very, very friendly, and reliable, too. At least they won't rip you off. http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&x=11&y=12&prid=6689&gprid=36052 > i couldnt read your response, it was The Web newsreader isn't very handy. In the middle pane on your screen, > too long double-click on the post's subject line or on the name of any of the people who posted a message, and a new window will open up with the entire "thread" of posts, making for much easier reading. Or just use Google Groups to read the entire thread on the following Web page: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.access.security/browse_thread/thread/83fb5749d74e126e/7fd8df0c9a9c760d?&hl=en#7fd8df0c9a9c760d > i didnt ask for all the opinionated judgemental assumptions you Then I take it you're not a registered Republican, but you've lived much of > keep throwing at me. your life being bossed around by a number of them. Doh! There I go again. > you're offended because i have all caps It doesn't bother me, but most people consider it rude to shout continuously, and to Internet readers, all caps means shouting. If you've typed all caps throughout your message, then you were probably unaware of this. Wouldn't you want someone to tell you when you have spinach between your teeth before you get up in front of an audience? I have no qualms about letting you know. It's in your best interest. > i dont know you from I pointed out why you won't get the help you're seeking if you're here "just > adam and you talk to me as if you can't stand me just because i asked for > help in the wrong way, in the wrong place, etc. give it a rest, huh? waiting to talk to a tech," as you put it, and I pointed out why it's risky to solicit complete strangers to remotely access your computer. I mentioned these things because I don't want you to think you're being ignored when you're obviously upset, and I don't want you to become a victim like oh so many young people who are offered free services from someone claiming to be an expert: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12409277 I also tried to set you straight on some of your erroneous assumptions about how your computer works, and advised you to get a computer technician to set up your fire walls if you can't do it correctly yourself, because if it's not done correctly, it's worthless. Computer novices have a difficult time with implementing security, but you can't afford to guess on this, so get a computer technician to do it if you have trouble. I also suggested that you seek legal counsel if you've reached the age of majority and don't live in the same household as your parents, since this would be an invasion of your privacy if it were intentional, as well as malicious mischief if he's preventing you from using your computer's files. That's hardly "talk as if you can't stand me." As a response, you claimed that you are almost 25, but not that you aren't still living with your Dad and using his Internet connection, yet expecting to be free from his network. If you're living under your Dad's roof, then you have to live by his rules, even if you're over 18. That's Dad's Rule #1 the world over. > try You're taking your anger out on the wrong person. Letting you know what to > being civil or even friendly. if you cant do that please dont communicate > with me. expect as a first-time newsgroup poster and how to avoid being taken by some shyster on the Internet is considered to be friendly advice. Politely setting you straight on your misconceptions about your computer was also giving you friendly advice. Sorry you don't see it that way, but since your satisfaction is 100% guaranteed, we'll give you a full refund of the price you paid the company I work for for my advice. Just submit your receipt. Have a nice day. Gunny See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs. See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials. http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/expert_contributors2.html for contact info. Show quoteHide quote "GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER" <GUESSIMNOTTHEOW***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9E16214E-A4AF-47AC-94B9-C3430A33092E@microsoft.com... > wow i dont know if you're more hateful or helpful. i said i was > computer-illiterate, not some half-wit moron. ofcourse i got tech support > elsewhere, you should know microsoft support is more user friendly than > ever, > so even idiots like me have a chance... i couldnt read your response, it > was > too long and i didnt ask for all the opinionated judgemental assumptions > you > keep throwing at me. i do appreciate the fact you offered any valid > response > whatsoever. you're offended because i have all caps, but i dont know you > from > adam and you talk to me as if you can't stand me just because i asked for > help in the wrong way, in the wrong place, etc. give it a rest, huh? try > being civil or even friendly. if you cant do that please dont communicate > with me. thanks > -- > EEE > > > "'69 Camaro" wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> > i take it >> > theres no way he could have wireless access to my computer? >> >> He could, but in order to do so, you have to have a wireless network card >> connected to your computer or to the router that your computer is >> networked >> to, and he'd have to be within close proximity with a computer that can >> receive the signal, or have a "repeater" repeat the signal to a network >> that >> can receive it. So, that "close proximity" can be within 300 feet, or >> within many hundreds of miles in the case of a network of repeaters. >> >> > i am just waiting to talk to a tech or maybe have someone access me and >> > do the diagnostics the right way so i can get disconnected. >> >> "Waiting to talk to a tech"? Are you expecting that technician to reply >> to >> your newsgroup messages or did you call a tech on the phone and leave a >> message with your phone number so that he can call you back? If it's the >> former, then be advised that most of the people who will reply to your >> messages posted to the technical newsgroups _are_ techs, either as a >> vocation or as a hobby. However, we're all volunteers who offer >> technical >> advice to others who are trying to walk down the paths we've walked >> before >> and need a little help to get pointed in the right direction. If you >> need >> actual tech support to do what you can't do yourself, then you need to >> find >> a friend or relative to help you, or else you need to hire tech support. >> If >> you don't trust your Dad to do this, then ask your friends who they'd >> recommend or consult the Yellow Pages in your area for reputable computer >> technicians, and bring your computer to them. Don't let some stranger on >> the Internet have remote access to your computer, even if he offers to do >> it >> for free, because the chances are just too high that it will be a hacker >> who >> wants to use your computer for illegal activities. >> >> And are you sure that it's your Dad networked to your computer and not a >> hacker? Hackers put spyware on computers all the time, so that they can >> remotely control the computer and monitor activities, particularly User >> ID's >> and passwords at bank Web sites and usage of credit cards. Do you have >> anti-spyware installed on your computer to prevent and detect spyware? >> Do >> you have a hardware firewall on your router and a software firewall on >> your >> computer? These will stop hackers from accessing your computer if >> they're >> configured properly. Have a computer technician set up firewalls for you >> if >> you can't figure out how to do it correctly yourself. >> >> HTH. >> Gunny >> >> See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs. >> See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials. >> http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/expert_contributors2.html for contact >> info. >> >> >> "GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER" <GUESSIMNOTTHEOW***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote >> in >> message news:13C0D5E1-566A-4EBC-AC80-E55CCBEEBDC2@microsoft.com... >> > thanks captain obvious! yes im computer illiterate. almost 25 years is >> > hardly >> > minor. im frustrated which blurs my attempt to explain whats happening >> > to >> > the >> > best of my knowledge in the correct forum or newsgroup whatever. i take >> > it >> > theres no way he could have wireless access to my computer? at one >> > point i >> > disabled the network hardware or components and actually i doubt i >> > could >> > explain to you exactly what i did. if you dont have the right info you >> > cant >> > help. i am just waiting to talk to a tech or maybe have someone access >> > me >> > and >> > do the diagnostics the right way so i can get disconnected. thanks >> > anyway... >> > -- >> > EEE >> > >> > >> > "'69 Camaro" wrote: >> > >> >> Hi. >> >> >> >> First, you've posted to the security newsgroup for Microsoft Access, >> >> the >> >> database product that's part of the Microsoft Office productivity >> >> suite, >> >> and >> >> is dedicated to security issues for this application, so your posts >> >> aren't >> >> likely to receive replies that will help you. Second, it sounds like >> >> you >> >> are a minor whom your parents are responsible for at all times, >> >> including >> >> when you use your computer. If this is the case, then they have a >> >> legal >> >> responsibility to monitor your activities, regardless of whether or >> >> not >> >> you >> >> think it an invasion of your privacy. Third, typing in all caps is >> >> considered shouting on the Internet, and when used for more than a >> >> sentence >> >> or a phrase or two, it's considered quite rude. >> >> >> >> > I WANT TO BE OFF ANY >> >> > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND >> >> > OWNED >> >> > AGAINST MY WILL. >> >> >> >> I seriously doubt you want to be off of _any_ network. You want to be >> >> off >> >> of your father's network, not the Internet's network. If I'm wrong >> >> about >> >> this, then all you need to do is remove any NIC cards from your >> >> computer >> >> (both the wireless network cards and the network cards where an >> >> Ethernet >> >> cable plugs into your computer), and the modem, and no one will be >> >> able >> >> to >> >> see or use your files unless they have a physical presence at your >> >> computer. >> >> >> >> <SNIP> >> >> >> Sorry. I accidentally hit the keyboard and sent that message before I >> >> was >> >> ready to. ;-) >> > >> >>> HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE ACCESS IF THEY >> >>> WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN >>> >> >>> START NEW. ALONE! >> > >> >> This isn't the brilliant idea that it sounds like. Many hucksters >> >> would >> >> love to get remote access to a computer novice's computer so that they >> >> can >> >> set up remote file sharing. The novice would never suspect a thing, >> >> and >> >> when the police do a raid, the novice is left to explain how those >> >> child >> >> pornography pictures got on the hard drive. Even if it's just pirated >> >> videos or software applications being downloaded from your hard drive >> >> to >> >> other people across the Internet, you'll have to explain how those >> >> files >> >> got >> >> there, and in the meantime you'll have reduced Internet bandwidth, CPU >> >> cycles, and hard drive space, because the freeloaders' files will take >> >> it >> >> all from you. >> >> >> >> If your Dad was generous enough to give you a PC, then be thankful for >> >> the >> >> gift and the opportunity to learn valuable computer skills. If you >> >> have >> >> reached the age of majority and don't live under the same roof as your >> >> parents, then you have a legal right to privacy on your computer, and >> >> you >> >> should seek legal counsel if any family member is intentionally spying >> >> on >> >> you and causing malicious mischief on your computer. If this is the >> >> case, >> >> then you should also take your computer to a computer specialist who >> >> will >> >> wipe the hard drive and install an operating system for you, so that >> >> you >> >> can >> >> install the rest of your software applications yourself. >> >> >> >> But I suspect that you want someone to do this last part remotely so >> >> that >> >> your father doesn't know what's going on in his kid's bedroom. But >> >> trust >> >> me >> >> that he's going to find out very, very quickly, and you will have to >> >> face >> >> the consequences for trying to be sneaky. >> >> >> >> HTH. >> >> Gunny >> >> >> >> See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs. >> >> See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and >> >> tutorials. >> >> http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/expert_contributors2.html for >> >> contact >> >> info. >> >> >> >> "GUESSIMNOTTHEOWNER" <GUESSIMNOTTHEOW***@discussions.microsoft.com> >> >> wrote >> >> in >> >> message news:3BCBDEF5-4372-4626-ACEF-40670A22F761@microsoft.com... >> >> > I'M DUMB. TOOK A YEAR TO REALIZE PC DAD GAVE ME IS ON HIS NETWORK >> >> > AND >> >> > UNDER >> >> > HIS CONTROL, SAME AS ALWAYS. IS THAT NOT ILLEGAL? I THOUGHT I >> >> > REBOOTED >> >> > AND >> >> > DISABLED HARDWARE SUCCESSFULLY WEEKS AGO. THOUGHT I WAS FREE AND >> >> > CLEAR, >> >> > SUSPECTED OTHERWISE (YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE THE OWNER AND YOU COME >> >> > ACCROSS >> >> > FILES YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO, SOMETHING'S WRONG). I WANT TO BE OFF >> >> > ANY >> >> > NETWORK. I DON'T WANT TO SHARE MY FILES. I AM BEING NETWORKED AND >> >> > OWNED >> >> > AGAINST MY WILL. HOW CAN I GET MY PC BACK? I'LL GIVE SOMEONE REMOTE >> >> > ACCESS >> >> > IF >> >> > THEY WOULD JUST CLEAR THE WHOLE MEMORY AND REINSTALL THE OS SO I CAN >> >> > START >> >> > NEW. ALONE! THX >> >> > -- >> >> > EEE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 
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