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Author
15 May 2009 12:37 PM
Zacharia
I've got an Access 2007 database that we've been trying to get running on a
network environment. 

Our db is located on a network file server (nas device).  We share that same
db with 3 users on the network.  They all want to be able to keep the db
open.  For some reason they cannot run or open when the file is opened by
more than 1 user.  2 of them are on Windows XP Pro and 1 is on Vista Ultimate.

It seems like this was possible in the past now we can't.

Author
18 May 2009 10:20 AM
Keith Wilby
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"Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7E6CAB69-0B12-4CDB-8F80-88409B1ED3F8@microsoft.com...
> I've got an Access 2007 database that we've been trying to get running on
> a
> network environment.
>
> Our db is located on a network file server (nas device).  We share that
> same
> db with 3 users on the network.  They all want to be able to keep the db
> open.  For some reason they cannot run or open when the file is opened by
> more than 1 user.  2 of them are on Windows XP Pro and 1 is on Vista
> Ultimate.
>
> It seems like this was possible in the past now we can't.
>
>
>

Don't share database files.  Split the app and give each user their own
front end file.  More info here:

http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/splitapp/index.htm

Keith.
www.keithwilby.co.uk
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Author
21 May 2009 3:34 AM
david
Some NAS devices don't support that.

(david)

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"Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7E6CAB69-0B12-4CDB-8F80-88409B1ED3F8@microsoft.com...
> I've got an Access 2007 database that we've been trying to get running on
> a
> network environment.
>
> Our db is located on a network file server (nas device).  We share that
> same
> db with 3 users on the network.  They all want to be able to keep the db
> open.  For some reason they cannot run or open when the file is opened by
> more than 1 user.  2 of them are on Windows XP Pro and 1 is on Vista
> Ultimate.
>
> It seems like this was possible in the past now we can't.
>
>
>
Author
26 May 2009 5:09 PM
Zacharia
I've reviewed both posts. I'm still a bit confused. It seems like we could do
this till Vista came around.  ANyway. Putting VISTA aside. SInce the share we
wanting to do would  be on 2 - 3 XP Pro workstations.  The same file would
reside on our SNAP Server 1100 model. 
THe Access database would be opened by one user and also open/available to
be opened by a second or third user with "View" only rights.  SInce it's open
on the first computer.  However, now we can't seem to open the file on the
2nd or 3rd computer.  WE get a access/share error. 



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"david" wrote:

> Some NAS devices don't support that.
>
> (david)
>
> "Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7E6CAB69-0B12-4CDB-8F80-88409B1ED3F8@microsoft.com...
> > I've got an Access 2007 database that we've been trying to get running on
> > a
> > network environment.
> >
> > Our db is located on a network file server (nas device).  We share that
> > same
> > db with 3 users on the network.  They all want to be able to keep the db
> > open.  For some reason they cannot run or open when the file is opened by
> > more than 1 user.  2 of them are on Windows XP Pro and 1 is on Vista
> > Ultimate.
> >
> > It seems like this was possible in the past now we can't.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
Author
27 May 2009 5:07 AM
david
You can't normally have a user with "View" only rights.

Unless all the users are "View" only, all the users need
to be able to create/read/write a shared lock file in the
same folder as the database.

If the View only user can't write locks on the lock file,
the View only user can't share the database file with a
R/W user.

(david)

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"Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:039E09DA-B03F-4578-9A45-C933A471D863@microsoft.com...
> I've reviewed both posts. I'm still a bit confused. It seems like we could
> do
> this till Vista came around.  ANyway. Putting VISTA aside. SInce the share
> we
> wanting to do would  be on 2 - 3 XP Pro workstations.  The same file would
> reside on our SNAP Server 1100 model.
> THe Access database would be opened by one user and also open/available to
> be opened by a second or third user with "View" only rights.  SInce it's
> open
> on the first computer.  However, now we can't seem to open the file on the
> 2nd or 3rd computer.  WE get a access/share error.
>
>
>
> "david" wrote:
>
>> Some NAS devices don't support that.
>>
>> (david)
>>
>> "Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7E6CAB69-0B12-4CDB-8F80-88409B1ED3F8@microsoft.com...
>> > I've got an Access 2007 database that we've been trying to get running
>> > on
>> > a
>> > network environment.
>> >
>> > Our db is located on a network file server (nas device).  We share that
>> > same
>> > db with 3 users on the network.  They all want to be able to keep the
>> > db
>> > open.  For some reason they cannot run or open when the file is opened
>> > by
>> > more than 1 user.  2 of them are on Windows XP Pro and 1 is on Vista
>> > Ultimate.
>> >
>> > It seems like this was possible in the past now we can't.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
Author
27 May 2009 2:36 PM
Zacharia
Well I think this has gone to an area that I didn't intend to. 
To be clear again.  I don't think this is a user permission issue.  All
users have Read and Write.  As a matter of fact the users who access this
database are all Administrators.

Once again this is the issue I'm needing help with:
The MS Access 2007 database will only allow one person to look/work at the
database at a time. User 1 was in it and User 2 tried to just access it to
look at something and it wouldn’t open. (the file is open on User 1's
workstation)

Is there any way for our database to be available so that both can be in at
the same time. (one read only is fine)  
We have always done this in the past.


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"david" wrote:

> You can't normally have a user with "View" only rights.
>
> Unless all the users are "View" only, all the users need
> to be able to create/read/write a shared lock file in the
> same folder as the database.
>
> If the View only user can't write locks on the lock file,
> the View only user can't share the database file with a
> R/W user.
>
> (david)
>
> "Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:039E09DA-B03F-4578-9A45-C933A471D863@microsoft.com...
> > I've reviewed both posts. I'm still a bit confused. It seems like we could
> > do
> > this till Vista came around.  ANyway. Putting VISTA aside. SInce the share
> > we
> > wanting to do would  be on 2 - 3 XP Pro workstations.  The same file would
> > reside on our SNAP Server 1100 model.
> > THe Access database would be opened by one user and also open/available to
> > be opened by a second or third user with "View" only rights.  SInce it's
> > open
> > on the first computer.  However, now we can't seem to open the file on the
> > 2nd or 3rd computer.  WE get a access/share error.
> >
> >
> >
> > "david" wrote:
> >
> >> Some NAS devices don't support that.
> >>
> >> (david)
> >>
> >> "Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7E6CAB69-0B12-4CDB-8F80-88409B1ED3F8@microsoft.com...
> >> > I've got an Access 2007 database that we've been trying to get running
> >> > on
> >> > a
> >> > network environment.
> >> >
> >> > Our db is located on a network file server (nas device).  We share that
> >> > same
> >> > db with 3 users on the network.  They all want to be able to keep the
> >> > db
> >> > open.  For some reason they cannot run or open when the file is opened
> >> > by
> >> > more than 1 user.  2 of them are on Windows XP Pro and 1 is on Vista
> >> > Ultimate.
> >> >
> >> > It seems like this was possible in the past now we can't.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
28 May 2009 2:54 AM
david
If you have set Access to Open Exclusive, it will do that.

Otherwise, this is a file permission issue, or a NAS issue.

It may be a Vista issue, if Vista has implemented a fix for
a common NAS fault to prevent data corruption (this is possible).

It may be an obscure network error or network configuration error.

(david)

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"Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8785338A-E81F-416F-8910-DFF69C6F6506@microsoft.com...
> Well I think this has gone to an area that I didn't intend to.
> To be clear again.  I don't think this is a user permission issue.  All
> users have Read and Write.  As a matter of fact the users who access this
> database are all Administrators.
>
> Once again this is the issue I'm needing help with:
> The MS Access 2007 database will only allow one person to look/work at the
> database at a time. User 1 was in it and User 2 tried to just access it to
> look at something and it wouldn't open. (the file is open on User 1's
> workstation)
>
> Is there any way for our database to be available so that both can be in
> at
> the same time. (one read only is fine)
> We have always done this in the past.
>
>
> "david" wrote:
>
>> You can't normally have a user with "View" only rights.
>>
>> Unless all the users are "View" only, all the users need
>> to be able to create/read/write a shared lock file in the
>> same folder as the database.
>>
>> If the View only user can't write locks on the lock file,
>> the View only user can't share the database file with a
>> R/W user.
>>
>> (david)
>>
>> "Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:039E09DA-B03F-4578-9A45-C933A471D863@microsoft.com...
>> > I've reviewed both posts. I'm still a bit confused. It seems like we
>> > could
>> > do
>> > this till Vista came around.  ANyway. Putting VISTA aside. SInce the
>> > share
>> > we
>> > wanting to do would  be on 2 - 3 XP Pro workstations.  The same file
>> > would
>> > reside on our SNAP Server 1100 model.
>> > THe Access database would be opened by one user and also open/available
>> > to
>> > be opened by a second or third user with "View" only rights.  SInce
>> > it's
>> > open
>> > on the first computer.  However, now we can't seem to open the file on
>> > the
>> > 2nd or 3rd computer.  WE get a access/share error.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "david" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Some NAS devices don't support that.
>> >>
>> >> (david)
>> >>
>> >> "Zacharia" <Zacha***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:7E6CAB69-0B12-4CDB-8F80-88409B1ED3F8@microsoft.com...
>> >> > I've got an Access 2007 database that we've been trying to get
>> >> > running
>> >> > on
>> >> > a
>> >> > network environment.
>> >> >
>> >> > Our db is located on a network file server (nas device).  We share
>> >> > that
>> >> > same
>> >> > db with 3 users on the network.  They all want to be able to keep
>> >> > the
>> >> > db
>> >> > open.  For some reason they cannot run or open when the file is
>> >> > opened
>> >> > by
>> >> > more than 1 user.  2 of them are on Windows XP Pro and 1 is on Vista
>> >> > Ultimate.
>> >> >
>> >> > It seems like this was possible in the past now we can't.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

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