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Author
27 Dec 2006 9:54 AM
Ben Freyer
how can I have a permission to delete a MSysObject?  I tried changing
permissions of users, owners and groups, but nothing helped.  I simply want
to delete a few tables.  I have this problem on a MS Access Database Windows
2000 Version, and I have the 2007 Beta version of the application itself

Author
27 Dec 2006 12:59 PM
Rick Brandt
Ben Freyer wrote:
> how can I have a permission to delete a MSysObject?  I tried changing
> permissions of users, owners and groups, but nothing helped.  I
> simply want to delete a few tables.  I have this problem on a MS
> Access Database Windows 2000 Version, and I have the 2007 Beta
> version of the application itself

You cannot.  Why do you think you need to?  You should turn off the option to
see system tables and just forget that they are even there.

--
Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
Email (as appropriate) to...
RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
Author
27 Dec 2006 1:25 PM
Ben Freyer
Rick,

The question was probably not right.  I do not want to delete a MSysObject. 
That was actually the message which popped-up when i wanted to delete a
normal (I repeat, a normally created table)  not a systems' table.  However,
I found the solution.  I changed the permissions under the administrator and
it worked.  Case closed.  For all others thanks; and Rick never intent to be
a tutor; your sarcastic reverse question "Why do you think you need to" is
not welcome.

Cheers,

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"Rick Brandt" wrote:

> Ben Freyer wrote:
> > how can I have a permission to delete a MSysObject?  I tried changing
> > permissions of users, owners and groups, but nothing helped.  I
> > simply want to delete a few tables.  I have this problem on a MS
> > Access Database Windows 2000 Version, and I have the 2007 Beta
> > version of the application itself
>
> You cannot.  Why do you think you need to?  You should turn off the option to
> see system tables and just forget that they are even there.
>
> --
> Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
> Email (as appropriate) to...
> RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
>
>
>
Author
27 Dec 2006 1:33 PM
Lynn Trapp
Ben,
I don't detect any "sarcastic" tone in Rick's question. He was simply trying
to ascertain why you thought deleting a system table might be necessary.

--

Lynn Trapp
Microsoft MVP (Access)
www.ltcomputerdesigns.com


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"Ben Freyer" <BenFre***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Rick,
>
> The question was probably not right.  I do not want to delete a
> MSysObject.
> That was actually the message which popped-up when i wanted to delete a
> normal (I repeat, a normally created table)  not a systems' table.
> However,
> I found the solution.  I changed the permissions under the administrator
> and
> it worked.  Case closed.  For all others thanks; and Rick never intent to
> be
> a tutor; your sarcastic reverse question "Why do you think you need to" is
> not welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> "Rick Brandt" wrote:
>
>> Ben Freyer wrote:
>> > how can I have a permission to delete a MSysObject?  I tried changing
>> > permissions of users, owners and groups, but nothing helped.  I
>> > simply want to delete a few tables.  I have this problem on a MS
>> > Access Database Windows 2000 Version, and I have the 2007 Beta
>> > version of the application itself
>>
>> You cannot.  Why do you think you need to?  You should turn off the
>> option to
>> see system tables and just forget that they are even there.
>>
>> --
>> Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
>> Email (as appropriate) to...
>> RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
>>
>>
>>
Author
27 Dec 2006 1:39 PM
Rick Brandt
Ben Freyer wrote:
> Rick,
>
> The question was probably not right.  I do not want to delete a
> MSysObject. That was actually the message which popped-up when i
> wanted to delete a normal (I repeat, a normally created table)  not a
> systems' table.  However, I found the solution.  I changed the
> permissions under the administrator and it worked.  Case closed.  For
> all others thanks; and Rick never intent to be a tutor; your
> sarcastic reverse question "Why do you think you need to" is not
> welcome.

I fail to see anything the slightest bit sarcastic about that question.  When
someone indicates they are having trouble accomplishing something that should
not be accomplished it is perfectly reasonable to ask for their reasoning behind
the attempt.

--
Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
Email (as appropriate) to...
RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
Author
27 Dec 2006 8:43 PM
'69 Camaro
Hi, Ben.

> and Rick never intent to be
> a tutor; your sarcastic reverse question "Why do you think you need to" is
> not welcome.

As a full-fledged member of the Sarcasm Brigade, I can say it would not be wise
for Rick to quit his day job, as he wouldn't win us any points for our team.  As
for you, Ben, would you care for some cheese . . . ?

Gunny


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"Ben Freyer" <BenFre***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Rick,
>
> The question was probably not right.  I do not want to delete a MSysObject.
> That was actually the message which popped-up when i wanted to delete a
> normal (I repeat, a normally created table)  not a systems' table.  However,
> I found the solution.  I changed the permissions under the administrator and
> it worked.  Case closed.  For all others thanks; and Rick never intent to be
> a tutor; your sarcastic reverse question "Why do you think you need to" is
> not welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> "Rick Brandt" wrote:
>
>> Ben Freyer wrote:
>> > how can I have a permission to delete a MSysObject?  I tried changing
>> > permissions of users, owners and groups, but nothing helped.  I
>> > simply want to delete a few tables.  I have this problem on a MS
>> > Access Database Windows 2000 Version, and I have the 2007 Beta
>> > version of the application itself
>>
>> You cannot.  Why do you think you need to?  You should turn off the option to
>> see system tables and just forget that they are even there.
>>
>> --
>> Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
>> Email (as appropriate) to...
>> RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
>>
>>
>>
Author
27 Dec 2006 8:46 PM
Lynn Trapp
> As a full-fledged member of the Sarcasm Brigade, I can say it would not be
> wise for Rick to quit his day job, as he wouldn't win us any points for
> our team.  As for you, Ben, would you care for some cheese . . . ?

<grin> <snicker> <snort>

--

Lynn Trapp
Microsoft MVP (Access)
www.ltcomputerdesigns.com
Author
27 Dec 2006 8:47 PM
'69 Camaro
.. . . to go with that whine?  :-)

Gunny


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"'69 Camaro" <ForwardZERO_SPAM.To.69Camaro@Spameater.orgZERO_SPAM> wrote in
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> Hi, Ben.
>
>> and Rick never intent to be
>> a tutor; your sarcastic reverse question "Why do you think you need to" is
>> not welcome.
>
> As a full-fledged member of the Sarcasm Brigade, I can say it would not be
> wise for Rick to quit his day job, as he wouldn't win us any points for our
> team.  As for you, Ben, would you care for some cheese . . . ?
>
> Gunny
>
>
> "Ben Freyer" <BenFre***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1152A756-1B00-4CDC-BE0D-0CE622808D9F@microsoft.com...
>> Rick,
>>
>> The question was probably not right.  I do not want to delete a MSysObject.
>> That was actually the message which popped-up when i wanted to delete a
>> normal (I repeat, a normally created table)  not a systems' table.  However,
>> I found the solution.  I changed the permissions under the administrator and
>> it worked.  Case closed.  For all others thanks; and Rick never intent to be
>> a tutor; your sarcastic reverse question "Why do you think you need to" is
>> not welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> "Rick Brandt" wrote:
>>
>>> Ben Freyer wrote:
>>> > how can I have a permission to delete a MSysObject?  I tried changing
>>> > permissions of users, owners and groups, but nothing helped.  I
>>> > simply want to delete a few tables.  I have this problem on a MS
>>> > Access Database Windows 2000 Version, and I have the 2007 Beta
>>> > version of the application itself
>>>
>>> You cannot.  Why do you think you need to?  You should turn off the option
>>> to
>>> see system tables and just forget that they are even there.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
>>> Email (as appropriate) to...
>>> RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Author
27 Dec 2006 9:05 PM
Rick Brandt
'69 Camaro wrote:
> As a full-fledged member of the Sarcasm Brigade, I can say it would
> not be wise for Rick to quit his day job, as he wouldn't win us any
> points for our team.  [snip]

Hey! I resent that remark.  I can be just as sarcastic as the next guy ;-)

ahem...

Ben, I apologize.  It was wrong of me to assume that you wanted to delete the
MSysObjects table just because you posted with a subject of "permissions to
delete MSysObjects".  In the future I will endeavor to probe the true meaning of
posted questions without relying solely on their textual content.

(how was that?)


--
Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
Email (as appropriate) to...
RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
Author
27 Dec 2006 9:18 PM
'69 Camaro
> (how was that?)

Point.

Gunny


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"Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> '69 Camaro wrote:
>> As a full-fledged member of the Sarcasm Brigade, I can say it would
>> not be wise for Rick to quit his day job, as he wouldn't win us any
>> points for our team.  [snip]
>
> Hey! I resent that remark.  I can be just as sarcastic as the next guy ;-)
>
> ahem...
>
> Ben, I apologize.  It was wrong of me to assume that you wanted to delete the
> MSysObjects table just because you posted with a subject of "permissions to
> delete MSysObjects".  In the future I will endeavor to probe the true meaning
> of posted questions without relying solely on their textual content.
>
> (how was that?)
>
>
> --
> Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
> Email (as appropriate) to...
> RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
>
>
>
Author
27 Dec 2006 9:22 PM
Rick Brandt
'69 Camaro wrote:
> > (how was that?)
>
> Point.

Excellent!

(another point?)

--
Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
Email (as appropriate) to...
RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
Author
27 Dec 2006 9:29 PM
'69 Camaro
>> > (how was that?)
>>
>> Point.
>
> Excellent!
>
> (another point?)

Pretty good . . . for the first day on the job.  I suppose you want to talk
salary?  ;-)

Gunny
Author
27 Dec 2006 9:48 PM
Rick Brandt
'69 Camaro wrote:
> > > > (how was that?)
> > >
> > > Point.
> >
> > Excellent!
> >
> > (another point?)
>
> Pretty good . . . for the first day on the job.  I suppose you want
> to talk salary?  ;-)
>
> Gunny

I have no desire for monetary compensation.


(that one has to be worth two points)

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Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
Email (as appropriate) to...
RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
Author
27 Dec 2006 10:34 PM
'69 Camaro
> I have no desire for monetary compensation.
>
> (that one has to be worth two points)

You'll have to take that up with the Complaint Department.  I just work here.

Gunny


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"Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> '69 Camaro wrote:
>> > > > (how was that?)
>> > >
>> > > Point.
>> >
>> > Excellent!
>> >
>> > (another point?)
>>
>> Pretty good . . . for the first day on the job.  I suppose you want
>> to talk salary?  ;-)
>>
>> Gunny
>
> I have no desire for monetary compensation.
>
>
> (that one has to be worth two points)
>
> --
> Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
> Email (as appropriate) to...
> RBrandt   at   Hunter   dot   com
>
Author
28 Dec 2006 4:06 PM
Lynn Trapp
> You'll have to take that up with the Complaint Department.  I just work
> here.
>

All complaints will be, from now on, handled by the Department of Silly
Arguments.

--

Lynn Trapp
Microsoft MVP (Access)
www.ltcomputerdesigns.com
Author
29 Dec 2006 1:50 AM
'69 Camaro
> All complaints will be, from now on, handled by the Department of Silly
> Arguments.

<SNORK!>

Gunny

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"Lynn Trapp" <ltrappNoSpam@ltcomputerdesigns.com> wrote in message
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>> You'll have to take that up with the Complaint Department.  I just work here.
>>
>
> All complaints will be, from now on, handled by the Department of Silly
> Arguments.
>
> --
>
> Lynn Trapp
> Microsoft MVP (Access)
> www.ltcomputerdesigns.com
>