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Design Master Unavailable in Replica Set

Author
12 Dec 2006 2:45 PM
Stof
I have a single replica of a database on my server. The design master of this
database was located on another server, but this server was shut down. No
other replicas exist. Obviously the replica cannot synchronise with the DM
anymore. I now want to make my replica the new design master, but I cannot
get this to work since I cannot seem to remove the old design master from the
replica list.
When I do try to synchronise the replica with the DM, I get an error message
saying that the DM-database cannot be found and will be deleted from the
replica list. However, when I go into "synchronise now" again, the DM-datbase
is still in the set.

What do I have to do to get this resolved.

Any help much appreciated

Author
12 Dec 2006 3:03 PM
Joan Wild
You need to turn this replica into the design master.  Tools, Replication,
Recover design master.


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Stof wrote:
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> I have a single replica of a database on my server. The design master
> of this database was located on another server, but this server was
> shut down. No other replicas exist. Obviously the replica cannot
> synchronise with the DM anymore. I now want to make my replica the
> new design master, but I cannot get this to work since I cannot seem
> to remove the old design master from the replica list.
> When I do try to synchronise the replica with the DM, I get an error
> message saying that the DM-database cannot be found and will be
> deleted from the replica list. However, when I go into "synchronise
> now" again, the DM-datbase is still in the set.
>
> What do I have to do to get this resolved.
>
> Any help much appreciated
Author
13 Dec 2006 2:12 AM
David W. Fenton
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"Joan Wild" <jwild@nospamtyenet.com> wrote in
news:OF5cj6fHHHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> Stof wrote:
>> I have a single replica of a database on my server. The design
>> master of this database was located on another server, but this
>> server was shut down. No other replicas exist. Obviously the
>> replica cannot synchronise with the DM anymore. I now want to
>> make my replica the new design master, but I cannot get this to
>> work since I cannot seem to remove the old design master from the
>> replica list. When I do try to synchronise the replica with the
>> DM, I get an error message saying that the DM-database cannot be
>> found and will be deleted from the replica list. However, when I
>> go into "synchronise now" again, the DM-datbase is still in the
>> set.
>>
>> What do I have to do to get this resolved.
>
> You need to turn this replica into the design master.  Tools,
> Replication, Recover design master.

And after doing that, create a new replica and transfer DM status to
it, so that your production replica (the one that's always being
used for data editing) is not your DM.

The minimum proper number of replicas in any replica set is THREE:

1. Design Master *NOT* for editing

2. Replica1 for editing

3. Replica2 for editing

It's just a bad idea to use your DM for anything but making schema
changes.

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David W. Fenton                  http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com    http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
Author
14 Dec 2006 7:39 AM
Stof
Joan / David,

Thanks for your reply.

When I try "Recover Design Master", I get the error message "The value
specified is not a ReplicaID for any member in the replica set." and nothing
happens.

Perhaps this is caused by the original DM still being in the replica set
(but no longer available)?

Any more thoughts?



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"David W. Fenton" wrote:

> "Joan Wild" <jwild@nospamtyenet.com> wrote in
> news:OF5cj6fHHHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>
> > Stof wrote:
> >> I have a single replica of a database on my server. The design
> >> master of this database was located on another server, but this
> >> server was shut down. No other replicas exist. Obviously the
> >> replica cannot synchronise with the DM anymore. I now want to
> >> make my replica the new design master, but I cannot get this to
> >> work since I cannot seem to remove the old design master from the
> >> replica list. When I do try to synchronise the replica with the
> >> DM, I get an error message saying that the DM-database cannot be
> >> found and will be deleted from the replica list. However, when I
> >> go into "synchronise now" again, the DM-datbase is still in the
> >> set.
> >>
> >> What do I have to do to get this resolved.
> >
> > You need to turn this replica into the design master.  Tools,
> > Replication, Recover design master.
>
> And after doing that, create a new replica and transfer DM status to
> it, so that your production replica (the one that's always being
> used for data editing) is not your DM.
>
> The minimum proper number of replicas in any replica set is THREE:
>
> 1. Design Master *NOT* for editing
>
> 2. Replica1 for editing
>
> 3. Replica2 for editing
>
> It's just a bad idea to use your DM for anything but making schema
> changes.
>
> --
> David W. Fenton                  http://www.dfenton.com/
> usenet at dfenton dot com    http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
>
Author
14 Dec 2006 3:09 PM
Joan Wild
David will be able to answer that question (as he knows much more than I do
about replication), however it appears to me that you don't need or want
replication anymore.  Is that the case?  Why did you have replication if all
you had was one replica and a design master on a LAN?

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Stof wrote:
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> Joan / David,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> When I try "Recover Design Master", I get the error message "The value
> specified is not a ReplicaID for any member in the replica set." and
> nothing happens.
>
> Perhaps this is caused by the original DM still being in the replica
> set (but no longer available)?
>
> Any more thoughts?
>
>
>
> "David W. Fenton" wrote:
>
>> "Joan Wild" <jwild@nospamtyenet.com> wrote in
>> news:OF5cj6fHHHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>>
>>> Stof wrote:
>>>> I have a single replica of a database on my server. The design
>>>> master of this database was located on another server, but this
>>>> server was shut down. No other replicas exist. Obviously the
>>>> replica cannot synchronise with the DM anymore. I now want to
>>>> make my replica the new design master, but I cannot get this to
>>>> work since I cannot seem to remove the old design master from the
>>>> replica list. When I do try to synchronise the replica with the
>>>> DM, I get an error message saying that the DM-database cannot be
>>>> found and will be deleted from the replica list. However, when I
>>>> go into "synchronise now" again, the DM-datbase is still in the
>>>> set.
>>>>
>>>> What do I have to do to get this resolved.
>>>
>>> You need to turn this replica into the design master.  Tools,
>>> Replication, Recover design master.
>>
>> And after doing that, create a new replica and transfer DM status to
>> it, so that your production replica (the one that's always being
>> used for data editing) is not your DM.
>>
>> The minimum proper number of replicas in any replica set is THREE:
>>
>> 1. Design Master *NOT* for editing
>>
>> 2. Replica1 for editing
>>
>> 3. Replica2 for editing
>>
>> It's just a bad idea to use your DM for anything but making schema
>> changes.
>>
>> --
>> David W. Fenton                  http://www.dfenton.com/
>> usenet at dfenton dot com    http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
Author
15 Dec 2006 2:55 AM
David W. Fenton
Stof <S***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:4A52FED1-55FD-4F8D-A8F6-832CA68602F3@microsoft.com:

> When I try "Recover Design Master", I get the error message "The
> value specified is not a ReplicaID for any member in the replica
> set." and nothing happens.
>
> Perhaps this is caused by the original DM still being in the
> replica set (but no longer available)?

Have you tried setting up a workstation to fake the old machine?
Match the share/path of the lost DM, but with no file there, and
then when you attempt to synch with it, the DM will be deleted from
the replica set.

Other than that, I'm pretty much at a loss.

This is why I always advise that the DM be put somewhere very safe.
And it has to remain in that location.

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David W. Fenton                  http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com    http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/