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Author
5 Dec 2006 8:33 PM
TechyTemp
The two guys in the warehouse can pull up Access and open the database but
,when they go to pull up the needed form, all they get is the background.  Is
this a permissions problem?  If so, what do I need to address?

Author
5 Dec 2006 8:47 PM
Joan Wild
It would only be a permissions issue if you have implemented user-level
security - have you?

Are you (or anyone else) able to open the form and see the data?


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

TechyTemp wrote:
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> The two guys in the warehouse can pull up Access and open the
> database but ,when they go to pull up the needed form, all they get
> is the background.  Is this a permissions problem?  If so, what do I
> need to address?
Author
5 Dec 2006 9:02 PM
TechyTemp
I have set-up user group permissions but I haven't used the user-level
wizard.  I haven't defined the workgroup security groups either - where/how
do I do that?

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"Joan Wild" wrote:

> It would only be a permissions issue if you have implemented user-level
> security - have you?
>
> Are you (or anyone else) able to open the form and see the data?
>
>
> --
> Joan Wild
> Microsoft Access MVP
>
> TechyTemp wrote:
> > The two guys in the warehouse can pull up Access and open the
> > database but ,when they go to pull up the needed form, all they get
> > is the background.  Is this a permissions problem?  If so, what do I
> > need to address?
>
>
>
Author
5 Dec 2006 9:08 PM
Joan Wild
I think perhaps you are mixing up users/groups in windows and users/groups
in Access.

"I have set-up user group permissions" - do you mean Windows user group, or
Access user group?  I'm thinking it's Windows?  If so, you need to realize
that *all* users of a mdb file need read/write/create permission on the
folder where the mdb is located.



--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

TechyTemp wrote:
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> I have set-up user group permissions but I haven't used the user-level
> wizard.  I haven't defined the workgroup security groups either -
> where/how do I do that?
>
> "Joan Wild" wrote:
>
>> It would only be a permissions issue if you have implemented
>> user-level security - have you?
>>
>> Are you (or anyone else) able to open the form and see the data?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Joan Wild
>> Microsoft Access MVP
>>
>> TechyTemp wrote:
>>> The two guys in the warehouse can pull up Access and open the
>>> database but ,when they go to pull up the needed form, all they get
>>> is the background.  Is this a permissions problem?  If so, what do I
>>> need to address?
Author
5 Dec 2006 9:24 PM
TechyTemp
I am talking about Access.  I haven't made any changes at all for Windows
user groups.  Do I need to contact IT?

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"Joan Wild" wrote:

> I think perhaps you are mixing up users/groups in windows and users/groups
> in Access.
>
> "I have set-up user group permissions" - do you mean Windows user group, or
> Access user group?  I'm thinking it's Windows?  If so, you need to realize
> that *all* users of a mdb file need read/write/create permission on the
> folder where the mdb is located.
>
>
>
> --
> Joan Wild
> Microsoft Access MVP
>
> TechyTemp wrote:
> > I have set-up user group permissions but I haven't used the user-level
> > wizard.  I haven't defined the workgroup security groups either -
> > where/how do I do that?
> >
> > "Joan Wild" wrote:
> >
> >> It would only be a permissions issue if you have implemented
> >> user-level security - have you?
> >>
> >> Are you (or anyone else) able to open the form and see the data?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Joan Wild
> >> Microsoft Access MVP
> >>
> >> TechyTemp wrote:
> >>> The two guys in the warehouse can pull up Access and open the
> >>> database but ,when they go to pull up the needed form, all they get
> >>> is the background.  Is this a permissions problem?  If so, what do I
> >>> need to address?
>
>
>
Author
5 Dec 2006 9:32 PM
Joan Wild
OK, if you meant Access, and you "set-up user group permissions" but "I
haven't defined the workgroup security groups either"
then you haven't setup security in Access at all.  You need to follow the
steps in the security FAQ *to the letter*
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793
Additional reading:
Security Whitepaper
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=148555

Although the whitepaper is old, it contains information to help you
understand security.

I've also outlined the detailed steps at
www.jmwild.com/AccessSecurity.htm


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

TechyTemp wrote:
Show quoteHide quote
> I am talking about Access.  I haven't made any changes at all for
> Windows user groups.  Do I need to contact IT?
>
> "Joan Wild" wrote:
>
>> I think perhaps you are mixing up users/groups in windows and
>> users/groups in Access.
>>
>> "I have set-up user group permissions" - do you mean Windows user
>> group, or Access user group?  I'm thinking it's Windows?  If so, you
>> need to realize that *all* users of a mdb file need
>> read/write/create permission on the folder where the mdb is located.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Joan Wild
>> Microsoft Access MVP
>>
>> TechyTemp wrote:
>>> I have set-up user group permissions but I haven't used the
>>> user-level wizard.  I haven't defined the workgroup security groups
>>> either - where/how do I do that?
>>>
>>> "Joan Wild" wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would only be a permissions issue if you have implemented
>>>> user-level security - have you?
>>>>
>>>> Are you (or anyone else) able to open the form and see the data?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joan Wild
>>>> Microsoft Access MVP
>>>>
>>>> TechyTemp wrote:
>>>>> The two guys in the warehouse can pull up Access and open the
>>>>> database but ,when they go to pull up the needed form, all they
>>>>> get is the background.  Is this a permissions problem?  If so,
>>>>> what do I need to address?
Author
6 Dec 2006 3:15 PM
TechyTemp
URGENT!

I followed the one-step security wizard instructions and my primary user
can't open up access on her computer.  I designated her as full data user and
as an update data user.  Why is she being told that she doesn't have the
proper permissions to open it?

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"Joan Wild" wrote:

> OK, if you meant Access, and you "set-up user group permissions" but "I
> haven't defined the workgroup security groups either"
> then you haven't setup security in Access at all.  You need to follow the
> steps in the security FAQ *to the letter*
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793
> Additional reading:
> Security Whitepaper
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=148555
>
> Although the whitepaper is old, it contains information to help you
> understand security.
>
> I've also outlined the detailed steps at
www.jmwild.com/AccessSecurity.htm
>
>
> --
> Joan Wild
> Microsoft Access MVP
>
> TechyTemp wrote:
> > I am talking about Access.  I haven't made any changes at all for
> > Windows user groups.  Do I need to contact IT?
> >
> > "Joan Wild" wrote:
> >
> >> I think perhaps you are mixing up users/groups in windows and
> >> users/groups in Access.
> >>
> >> "I have set-up user group permissions" - do you mean Windows user
> >> group, or Access user group?  I'm thinking it's Windows?  If so, you
> >> need to realize that *all* users of a mdb file need
> >> read/write/create permission on the folder where the mdb is located.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Joan Wild
> >> Microsoft Access MVP
> >>
> >> TechyTemp wrote:
> >>> I have set-up user group permissions but I haven't used the
> >>> user-level wizard.  I haven't defined the workgroup security groups
> >>> either - where/how do I do that?
> >>>
> >>> "Joan Wild" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It would only be a permissions issue if you have implemented
> >>>> user-level security - have you?
> >>>>
> >>>> Are you (or anyone else) able to open the form and see the data?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Joan Wild
> >>>> Microsoft Access MVP
> >>>>
> >>>> TechyTemp wrote:
> >>>>> The two guys in the warehouse can pull up Access and open the
> >>>>> database but ,when they go to pull up the needed form, all they
> >>>>> get is the background.  Is this a permissions problem?  If so,
> >>>>> what do I need to address?
>
>
>
Author
6 Dec 2006 6:10 PM
Joan Wild
You don't mention the version, but the wizard would have created a desktop
shortcut to launch the secure mdb; and it would have created a secure
workgroup file.

You need to make these available to all your users as well.  She is likely
trying to open the secure mdb via a double-click.  On her computer, since
she doesn't have the secure mdw, she's using the default mdw that ships with
Access.  That workgroup file is denying her access (and rightly so).

Put the secure mdb, and the secure mdw on the network.  Create a desktop
shortcut on her computer.

If she has Access installed in the same location as you, you can just copy
your desktop shortcut to her computer (it's just a file with a lnk
extension).

If she doesn't have Access installed in the same location, just create a
shortcut with the following as the target:

"path to msaccess.exe" "path to mdb" /wrkgrp "path to secure mdw"


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

TechyTemp wrote:
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> URGENT!
>
> I followed the one-step security wizard instructions and my primary
> user can't open up access on her computer.  I designated her as full
> data user and as an update data user.  Why is she being told that she
> doesn't have the proper permissions to open it?
>
> "Joan Wild" wrote:
>
>> OK, if you meant Access, and you "set-up user group permissions" but
>> "I haven't defined the workgroup security groups either"
>> then you haven't setup security in Access at all.  You need to
>> follow the steps in the security FAQ *to the letter*
>>  http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793
>> Additional reading:
>> Security Whitepaper
>>  http://support.microsoft.com/?id=148555
>>
>> Although the whitepaper is old, it contains information to help you
>> understand security.
>>
>> I've also outlined the detailed steps at
>>  www.jmwild.com/AccessSecurity.htm
>>
>>
>> --
>> Joan Wild
>> Microsoft Access MVP
>>
>> TechyTemp wrote:
>>> I am talking about Access.  I haven't made any changes at all for
>>> Windows user groups.  Do I need to contact IT?
>>>
>>> "Joan Wild" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think perhaps you are mixing up users/groups in windows and
>>>> users/groups in Access.
>>>>
>>>> "I have set-up user group permissions" - do you mean Windows user
>>>> group, or Access user group?  I'm thinking it's Windows?  If so,
>>>> you need to realize that *all* users of a mdb file need
>>>> read/write/create permission on the folder where the mdb is
>>>> located.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joan Wild
>>>> Microsoft Access MVP
>>>>
>>>> TechyTemp wrote:
>>>>> I have set-up user group permissions but I haven't used the
>>>>> user-level wizard.  I haven't defined the workgroup security
>>>>> groups either - where/how do I do that?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Joan Wild" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It would only be a permissions issue if you have implemented
>>>>>> user-level security - have you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you (or anyone else) able to open the form and see the data?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Joan Wild
>>>>>> Microsoft Access MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TechyTemp wrote:
>>>>>>> The two guys in the warehouse can pull up Access and open the
>>>>>>> database but ,when they go to pull up the needed form, all they
>>>>>>> get is the background.  Is this a permissions problem?  If so,
>>>>>>> what do I need to address?