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Author
8 Sep 2006 1:14 PM
Kan D.
Greetings.

Does anyone know of a way to do this (please read all steps):

1.  I want to setup a Design Master and 4 replicas. (I know how)

2.  I want to lock out the users from design mode of all objects within the
replica NOT using the "mdw" file, but some other way, requiring a password.

3.  I guess that's all.

4.  Help.

5.  Thanks.

6.  And Good Everything.

7.  Bye.

Kan

Author
8 Sep 2006 1:38 PM
Douglas J. Steele
You can't.

An MDE will prevent changes to forms, reports and modules, but they'll still
be able to change tables, queries and macros.

What's your objection to applying security and using a specific MDW file?

--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no e-mails, please!)


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"Kan D." <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:u9Frqi00GHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Greetings.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to do this (please read all steps):
>
> 1.  I want to setup a Design Master and 4 replicas. (I know how)
>
> 2.  I want to lock out the users from design mode of all objects within
> the replica NOT using the "mdw" file, but some other way, requiring a
> password.
>
> 3.  I guess that's all.
>
> 4.  Help.
>
> 5.  Thanks.
>
> 6.  And Good Everything.
>
> 7.  Bye.
>
> Kan
>
Author
8 Sep 2006 2:30 PM
Kan D.
well, shoot.

My objection to mdw is that, for some reason, my supervisor does not like
using the mdw file.

Why can't I make the replica's function in one aspect like an MDE (design of
objects is disabled)?

I don't want to make MDEs, but, judging from your response, I may have to.

What is your response?

Thanks,
Kan

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"Douglas J. Steele" <NOSPAM_djsteele@NOSPAM_canada.com> wrote in message
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> You can't.
>
> An MDE will prevent changes to forms, reports and modules, but they'll
> still be able to change tables, queries and macros.
>
> What's your objection to applying security and using a specific MDW file?
>
> --
> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
> http://I.Am/DougSteele
> (no e-mails, please!)
>
>
> "Kan D." <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:u9Frqi00GHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Greetings.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to do this (please read all steps):
>>
>> 1.  I want to setup a Design Master and 4 replicas. (I know how)
>>
>> 2.  I want to lock out the users from design mode of all objects within
>> the replica NOT using the "mdw" file, but some other way, requiring a
>> password.
>>
>> 3.  I guess that's all.
>>
>> 4.  Help.
>>
>> 5.  Thanks.
>>
>> 6.  And Good Everything.
>>
>> 7.  Bye.
>>
>> Kan
>>
>
>
Author
8 Sep 2006 2:43 PM
Douglas J. Steele
Does your supervisor realize that Access uses an MDW file whether or not
you've applied security?

And I wasn't actually recommending MDEs, as they don't appear to meet your
needs (the users will still be able to make changes to tables, queries and
macros)

--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no e-mails, please!)


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"Kan D." <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> well, shoot.
>
> My objection to mdw is that, for some reason, my supervisor does not like
> using the mdw file.
>
> Why can't I make the replica's function in one aspect like an MDE (design
> of objects is disabled)?
>
> I don't want to make MDEs, but, judging from your response, I may have to.
>
> What is your response?
>
> Thanks,
> Kan
>
> "Douglas J. Steele" <NOSPAM_djsteele@NOSPAM_canada.com> wrote in message
> news:OUgvOw00GHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You can't.
>>
>> An MDE will prevent changes to forms, reports and modules, but they'll
>> still be able to change tables, queries and macros.
>>
>> What's your objection to applying security and using a specific MDW file?
>>
>> --
>> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
>> http://I.Am/DougSteele
>> (no e-mails, please!)
>>
>>
>> "Kan D." <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:u9Frqi00GHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Greetings.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of a way to do this (please read all steps):
>>>
>>> 1.  I want to setup a Design Master and 4 replicas. (I know how)
>>>
>>> 2.  I want to lock out the users from design mode of all objects within
>>> the replica NOT using the "mdw" file, but some other way, requiring a
>>> password.
>>>
>>> 3.  I guess that's all.
>>>
>>> 4.  Help.
>>>
>>> 5.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> 6.  And Good Everything.
>>>
>>> 7.  Bye.
>>>
>>> Kan
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
8 Sep 2006 2:49 PM
Douglas J. Steele
Forgot to mention that you should only be replicating the tables anyhow.
"Application objects" such as forms, reports, modules and macros aren't
intended to be replicated.

--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no e-mails, please!)


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"Douglas J. Steele" <NOSPAM_djsteele@NOSPAM_canada.com> wrote in message
news:uByedU10GHA.3752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Does your supervisor realize that Access uses an MDW file whether or not
> you've applied security?
>
> And I wasn't actually recommending MDEs, as they don't appear to meet your
> needs (the users will still be able to make changes to tables, queries and
> macros)
>
> --
> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
> http://I.Am/DougSteele
> (no e-mails, please!)
>
>
> "Kan D." <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:eqInKN10GHA.772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> well, shoot.
>>
>> My objection to mdw is that, for some reason, my supervisor does not like
>> using the mdw file.
>>
>> Why can't I make the replica's function in one aspect like an MDE (design
>> of objects is disabled)?
>>
>> I don't want to make MDEs, but, judging from your response, I may have
>> to.
>>
>> What is your response?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kan
>>
>> "Douglas J. Steele" <NOSPAM_djsteele@NOSPAM_canada.com> wrote in message
>> news:OUgvOw00GHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> You can't.
>>>
>>> An MDE will prevent changes to forms, reports and modules, but they'll
>>> still be able to change tables, queries and macros.
>>>
>>> What's your objection to applying security and using a specific MDW
>>> file?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
>>> http://I.Am/DougSteele
>>> (no e-mails, please!)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kan D." <nob***@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u9Frqi00GHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Greetings.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of a way to do this (please read all steps):
>>>>
>>>> 1.  I want to setup a Design Master and 4 replicas. (I know how)
>>>>
>>>> 2.  I want to lock out the users from design mode of all objects within
>>>> the replica NOT using the "mdw" file, but some other way, requiring a
>>>> password.
>>>>
>>>> 3.  I guess that's all.
>>>>
>>>> 4.  Help.
>>>>
>>>> 5.  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> 6.  And Good Everything.
>>>>
>>>> 7.  Bye.
>>>>
>>>> Kan
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
8 Sep 2006 3:09 PM
Joan Wild
In addition to Doug's comments regarding the replication of non-tables and
using a MDE, you can secure your application such that users use their
standard system.mdw and don't have to login.  See
www.jmwild.com/SecureNoLogin.htm


--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Kan D. wrote:
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> Greetings.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to do this (please read all steps):
>
> 1.  I want to setup a Design Master and 4 replicas. (I know how)
>
> 2.  I want to lock out the users from design mode of all objects
> within the replica NOT using the "mdw" file, but some other way,
> requiring a password.
> 3.  I guess that's all.
>
> 4.  Help.
>
> 5.  Thanks.
>
> 6.  And Good Everything.
>
> 7.  Bye.
>
> Kan
Author
8 Sep 2006 3:37 PM
Douglas J. Steele
I thought you were away on vacation!

--
Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
http://I.Am/DougSteele
(no e-mails, please!)


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"Joan Wild" <jwild@nospamtyenet.com> wrote in message
news:OiHFIk10GHA.772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> In addition to Doug's comments regarding the replication of non-tables and
> using a MDE, you can secure your application such that users use their
> standard system.mdw and don't have to login.  See
> www.jmwild.com/SecureNoLogin.htm
>
>
> --
> Joan Wild
> Microsoft Access MVP
>
> Kan D. wrote:
>> Greetings.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to do this (please read all steps):
>>
>> 1.  I want to setup a Design Master and 4 replicas. (I know how)
>>
>> 2.  I want to lock out the users from design mode of all objects
>> within the replica NOT using the "mdw" file, but some other way,
>> requiring a password.
>> 3.  I guess that's all.
>>
>> 4.  Help.
>>
>> 5.  Thanks.
>>
>> 6.  And Good Everything.
>>
>> 7.  Bye.
>>
>> Kan
>
>
Author
10 Sep 2006 12:52 AM
Joan Wild
<g> I am, sporadically.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

Douglas J. Steele wrote:
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> I thought you were away on vacation!
>
> --
> Doug Steele, Microsoft Access MVP
> http://I.Am/DougSteele
> (no e-mails, please!)
>
>
> "Joan Wild" <jwild@nospamtyenet.com> wrote in message
> news:OiHFIk10GHA.772@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> In addition to Doug's comments regarding the replication of
>> non-tables and using a MDE, you can secure your application such
>> that users use their standard system.mdw and don't have to login. See
>> www.jmwild.com/SecureNoLogin.htm
>>
>>
>> --
>> Joan Wild
>> Microsoft Access MVP
>>
>> Kan D. wrote:
>>> Greetings.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of a way to do this (please read all steps):
>>>
>>> 1.  I want to setup a Design Master and 4 replicas. (I know how)
>>>
>>> 2.  I want to lock out the users from design mode of all objects
>>> within the replica NOT using the "mdw" file, but some other way,
>>> requiring a password.
>>> 3.  I guess that's all.
>>>
>>> 4.  Help.
>>>
>>> 5.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> 6.  And Good Everything.
>>>
>>> 7.  Bye.
>>>
>>> Kan
Author
9 Sep 2006 1:03 AM
tbl
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:09:01 -0400, "Joan Wild"
<jwild@nospamtyenet.com> wrote:

>In addition to Doug's comments regarding the replication of non-tables and
>using a MDE, you can secure your application such that users use their
>standard system.mdw and don't have to login.  See
>www.jmwild.com/SecureNoLogin.htm


I see options there for Acc97, 2002, and 2003, but not 2000.
Did I miss it?
--
Thanks,
tbl
Author
10 Sep 2006 12:53 AM
Joan Wild
Yes, it's covered on the same page as 97.

--
Joan Wild
Microsoft Access MVP

tbl wrote:
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> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 11:09:01 -0400, "Joan Wild"
> <jwild@nospamtyenet.com> wrote:
>
>> In addition to Doug's comments regarding the replication of
>> non-tables and using a MDE, you can secure your application such
>> that users use their standard system.mdw and don't have to login.
>> See www.jmwild.com/SecureNoLogin.htm
>
>
> I see options there for Acc97, 2002, and 2003, but not 2000.
> Did I miss it?
> --
> Thanks,
> tbl
Author
10 Sep 2006 1:09 PM
tbl
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 20:53:27 -0400, "Joan Wild"
<jwild@nospamtyenet.com> wrote:

>Yes, it's covered on the same page as 97.


Thanks Joan!
--
tbl